All right, 702, I feel comfortable starting this off.

Okay, welcome to the March 6th, 2024 meeting of the Sharon School Committee.

This meeting will be conducted remotely over Zoom. Attendance by board and commission members will be remote and remote attendance shall count towards a quorum. The meeting will be broadcast live recorded by Sharon TV. If you elect to enable your webcam, your image, your background, it will be broadcast with or without sound. As always, or I should say as almost always, the first agenda item we have is our public comments.

I would ask for a timekeeper from the committee.

Any volunteers?

I see Julie raise your hand.

All right.

Only ground rules are two minutes per person. Please be sure to stay within that two minutes.

Obviously, nobody likes to cut anybody off, but we do have to hold everybody the same standard. Also, I would ask that folks just try to be as respectful as possible.

But again, that's an ask. I can't make you stay there.

I would ask people just like I did on Monday to please keep in mind making their comments that all the discussion around budget is sensitive.

I think it's very personal to folks. Many of our staff through the district see that there are, you know, serious effects to their jobs, whether it's cuts to their personal position or to those who they're close with or even just things that they believe will make their job much more difficult.

And so we're all very sensitive topics. Also, you know, these these topics are very sensitive for our students.

And so when we discuss things, especially things that are people and, you know, not supply budgets and whatnot, please be mindful of that. All right.

With that said, I see Mary Blinky.

Hi, good evening.

So thank you so much for holding the meeting on Monday.

I saw that basically having a vote on the budget is still on the agenda for night.

And I would kindly ask you to reconsider voting tonight.

The public still has no idea what budget is actually being voted on at the meeting on Monday. There was a lot of creative ideas being proposed.

I know you finally started that difficult conversation about what it would take to save some teacher jobs, but nobody actually knows what is the proposal which is being discussed.

So I would kindly ask you to actually propose a budget the public could actually look at and then vote at a following meeting.

Another thing is I noticed at Monday's meeting there was a lot of teachers calling in to to save the jobs of certain administrators.

I would just like to curious what how many of those teachers are reporting directly to those administrators or being evaluated for continual employment by those administrators.

And if there's any policy about preventing any sort of pressure by supervisors against subordinates to prevent any conflicts of interest.

And finally, I just want to reiterate, I really think that we need to focus on keeping as many people like teachers in the classroom guidance counselors meeting with students assistant principals who are critical to discipline and resolving confluence and actually implementing the anti bullying policy that Sharon is now considering.

You cannot literally follow up on all the bias incidents and all the gateway and bullying behaviors unless you have those assistant principals.

So I was very excited to see some of the proposals by Dr. Botello to take away some of the administrative and paperwork duties from people and have them spend more of their time. And I think it's really, I think it's really, I think it's really important to have those positions be more student focused.

And I think it's only fair that if we go down this route that this committee revises the superintendent goals to be less administrative focus because there's a lot of reporting, which was part of those goals. And it would be unfair to hold Dr. Botello to those goals while removing the people or the positions which are responsible for those goals.

Thank you. Thank you.

Kathleen Turner.

Hi.

I have some comments that I would like to make.

And if I extend between over my two minutes, would you possibly be able to get, have Lori Davis speak next to follow sort of what I have planned to say?

That's a, yeah, absolutely. That's a very fair ask.

Okay. Thank you. I actually am speaking about the high school assistant principal.

The high school assistant principal's entire job is student facing.

Their priority is not discipline so much as it is student case management, attendance, peer conflict, student staff conflict, grades, IEP 504 meetings, parent communication, program recommendations, et cetera.

This requires assistant principals to be in front of students daily.

Furthermore, interactions with students do not just support their success, but indirectly support teacher success. Currently, the assistant principal caseloads are 566 students.

Should a 0.5 FTE be cut, the 1.0 FTE assistant principal would have a caseload of 849.

This is higher than the caseload of the Westin high school assistant principal at 662, for example. The larger staff to student ratio directly impacts the ability to build relationships, the very foundation of a vibrant and safe school community.

The assistant principals regularly collaborate with teachers, school counselors, adjustment counselors, school psychologists to support our most at-risk students. Of the 1,132 students currently enrolled at Sharon High School, 717 students, that's 63%, are considered at-risk.

Some risk is 541 at 48%, moderate risk 103 at 9%, and high risk 73 at 6%.

The reduction of the assistant principal position is also detrimental to the safety of our students.

Our new building is far larger than the former structure, and it's imperative to have more administrators, not fewer, to be present throughout the building. In addition to their direct interactions with students and families, the two assistant principals and principal currently evaluate 26 staff members each.

A 0.5 FTE assistant principal cut will increase the principal and 1.0 FTE assistant principal evaluations to 32 and 33 each.

A comparison with other schools in the Hockamock League and other schools in the Commonwealth that we often compare ourselves to show that the size of their administrative teams relative to their student enrollment, as per the DESE school profiles, show that they almost consistently have more building-based administrators than we do, thus ensuring low administrator-to-student ratios.

If we want to continue to promote Sharon Public Schools as a destination district for families and educators, we must continue to compete with those schools around us.

This cut will dramatically set us back in the race.

Several years ago, the high school had one full-time assistant principal and a half-time assistant principal. This structure did not work at all, which is why the superintendent prioritized a full-time position in the subsequent budget.

I'd like to pass to Lori Davis, who will speak to the athletic director, which was the joint position.

Thanks, Kathleen.

The athletic director has responsibilities that extend beyond the 1.0 position, and cutting it back to a 0.5 FTE will be detrimental in many ways to our programs and students.

There is a steady stream of students who go in and out of the athletic director's office all day.

Additionally, they have to work weekends, evening hours, and during vacations.

The athletic director is responsible for the recruitment, hiring, education, supervision, and annual evaluation of all coaches, the ordering, receiving, distributing, excuse me, distribution, maintaining, and storing of all athletic uniforms and equipment, the formulating, the formulating and recording, the proper inventory of all athletic equipment on an annual basis, the organization, scheduling, and management of all athletic events, as well as transportation to away events and supervision at home events.

In collaboration with the directors of facilities for all supervising athletic facilities, recommending the necessary maintenance and repair to ensure the safety of student-athletes.

There is this discussion of wanting to expand offerings for all students, especially girls teams and unified teams.

It will be impossible for a part-time AD to maintain what we have and add even more.

Additionally, the idea of having a part-time assistant principal athletic director is not logistically practical.

As previously stated, the athletic director job spans the entire school day and spills over into the afternoon, evening, weekends, and vacation.

One person would not be able to successfully fulfill the requirements of both positions.

And at this time, I'd like to pass on to Andrea Dolchermont, who would like to address the halftime administrative assistant position.

Thank you.

Just grab my...

The reduction of the 2.5 administrative assistant positions has a significant impact on the operation of both the main office at the high school, which includes supporting the assistant principal, I say principals, hopefully, the special ed administrator, and while in the position in the counseling suite, which includes the dean of academic affairs, six school counselors, two school psychologists, and adjustment counselors.

This includes direct student management as well as a vast array of administrative responsibilities.

That student management means triaging students who come in crisis, students who have both physical and emotional needs, and the administrative assistants wind up managing those pieces.

These are positions that have already seen a reduction over the past year.

Our current counseling administrative assistant has gone above and beyond to compensate for an empty second admin position since the beginning of the year. For example, she's worked overtime on evenings and weekends, unpaid to get transcripts and materials out of the office in time for college applications.

She has done this as a temporary fix, but this is not sustainable.

Our administrative assistants are our face in our office.

Now that we're surviving with one, she spends most of her time managing an influx of students, welcoming them, offering them a calm space while they wait for their counselor.

If they're in crisis, they ensure that they're being kept safe by tracking their attendance.

Because of this, all of the administrative duties in her actual job have to wait until after school hours. Our administrative assistant and dean of academic affairs have absorbed most of these responsibilities, which also includes a significant amount of data entry and power school management, which was reassigned and realigned from another reduction in an administrative assistant position.

But these are things that we're forced to deal with at a cut at the time. Some of the things that we will need to look at eliminating will be having college rep visits come to the high school.

It will impact the way in which we can collect fees for testing.

And we'll need to look to move to some sort of an online management of that that currently is all managed by paper. Managing front desk and student traffic, the registrar responsibilities, which are currently managed through the school counseling high school office for all high school registrations.

School junior award ceremonies, job and volunteer opportunities boards, scholarships, which were managed in the past when we had a second admin assistant.

We're managing to kind of figure out how to do that.

In addition, this is a position that runs and manages all the distribution of 504s. And then the decrease in this could also impact some of our speed in which we can manage transcripts, working papers and other administrative pieces that need to get managed in the best interest of our students.

And I believe I'm passing now to Julie Pekaski.

Can I just ask, I know Ms. Turner had asked about passing it to one.

Is there a, can somebody, normally I call as the chair of the meeting, I call on the next person. And I don't, I'm not saying this isn't, and I'm not going to allow this. I just want to know how many more, each time you guys finish, there's a, there's a pass on. No one's giving me heads up as to how long, like, do we know how many people are in that baton pass?

Somebody?

SPEAKER_UNKNOWN: Okay. I am going to speak last.

I believe I'm at the end.

And it is okay if I speak right now, just double checking.

Yes, you're good. Of course. Anyway, I did see your hands were up in order just for anybody from the public that has an issue. I just wanted to make sure that we, that I sort of understood what the scope was. That's all.

Perfect. Yes, I should be the last to speak in this particular thread.

I just want to speak to the interconnectedness of the positions that have been shared before me.

So, for example, as a high school English teacher, I am not directly involved in athletics, but I do specifically feel the importance of the athletic director.

I see the joy in students' faces when they come into my class, excited about games that are going on and activities that they can be directly enrolled in.

And so, even though I might not have a lot of one-to-one contact with that particular director, I see and really feel the impact on the school community.

The same goes for the counseling positions and the assistant principal positions as well.

Obviously, the assistant principals I do work with more regularly, but specifically, you know, sometimes we think like an admin assistant.

What do I, as a classroom teacher, have to do with that?

But to what Andrea Dantremont shared before me, we do really feel that when we are trying to coordinate things, when we are trying to get support for our students, when we are trying to coordinate small things like field trips, every FTE we eliminate really spreads more work and takes us away from the most important thing, which is focusing on the time with our students.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. All right, Judy Crosby.

SPEAKER_UNKNOWN: Thanks.

But I'm going to ask the same thing I asked the other night, which is to please.

Brittany Kurtz.

Hi, everyone.

Sorry, my daughter's having Cocomelon on in the background.

So my apologies.

I'm a special education teacher at East Elementary School.

I'm also a Sharon resident.

And my big kind of first question and ask is if we're using the kindergarten reinstatement of fees to make up some of the deficit, why is an assistant principal at the elementary level who has some of the most direct contact with those students, not only in helping, you know, daily to support each of the behaviors, but also with the transition to kindergarten, as well as with kindergarten screening, be some one of the most affected positions here.

Just to add on to that, too.

Some of the kindergarten levels are the most impacted by the migrant families that we have had moved in who have also had, you know, even more challenges transitioning.

And our assistant principal, I can say, has been extraordinary in helping with those students adjust to our school, helps handle them daily.

Some of them we have found have needed additional things like glasses, and she has been instrumental in helping to ensure that those kids have what they need.

Now, just to add on to more of those things, not only helping with kindergarten, but she is literally like the backbone of our school.

Aside from running IEP meetings, she is someone that her door is open daily. You know, we check in with her, talk about students, and she is constantly sharing ideas, supporting each and every one of us, and ensuring that we can do the best job that we can for our students.

She handles behaviors every single day.

I mean, my office is across the hall from her. She has kids in there for lunch every single day, eating with her to ensure that they are happy, that they are getting through the school day, and not causing even more disruption in the lunchroom or anywhere else.

In addition, I know she's conducted many, many bullying investigations when they've been brought up.

She is communicating with parents daily, especially with those that have asked.

She is handling all the special education paperwork on top of all those bullying investigations, on top of even more things that I probably don't even know, just because I'm not in that role.

I really can say that she also helps 504. She might not be the direct coordinator for every single 504, but she is working so closely with the school adjustment counselors, with the nurse, and everyone else who is in charge of those 504s to ensure that they're in compliance, in addition to making sure that every IEP is in compliance.

So to just sum it all up, I can't imagine an elementary school without an assistant principal.

Thank you.

Noelle Allard.

Hi.

Hi.

So I work as the full-time school psychologist at Codd Street School.

I've been in Sharon for now eight years.

Losing the elementary assistant principal as FED coordinator is a huge loss. I think one very important piece is compliance.

So in special education world, it's all about compliance and timelines.

We have students we need to service.

We have students we need to evaluate both in our schools and from private schools for walk-ins.

The staff are already spread too thin.

And one concern I have that does affect a lot of the counseling staff, as well as our other special ed staff and classroom teachers, is when we have crisis in the building.

There are only a few handful of staff who are actually CPI trained.

It's not expected that staff like the psychs and the adjustment counselors be CPI trained. It's our restraint program.

But by eliminating one staff, you've also eliminated another resource for when students are in crisis.

It is going to require that other staff have to get more involved, which means that those staff, like myself, will be taken away from students who I do service.

I see students all day long, and I evaluate students as well, and I sit in meetings.

So if students are not being serviced, there are going to be compliance issues, and parents have a right to know if their students are not being serviced consistently.

For a long period of time.

The other piece is that for in terms of the walk-in students, Cottage has some of the highest walk-in students.

And something to think about is that our assistant principal does help with the observations in the schools of the students.

Some of these students go to private schools in Newton, up north. It can be almost half a day outside of the building where, again, we have to cancel students.

So this is a very huge concern.

The staff, again, are already spread very thin.

And by eliminating this position, you are asking staff to absorb even more responsibilities.

And the quality of our special education programming is going to go down because there is no time. There's going to be no time to complete our regular daily responsibilities and meet the needs of our students. Thank you.

Thank you.

Erin Silver.

Hi.

Good evening.

I am Erin Silver.

I am a seventh grade science teacher at the middle school. And I'm going to be speaking to the literacy and math specialists.

Currently at SMS, we have two literacy specialists and one math specialist.

And the proposal is to cut the one math specialist we have, as well as one of the literacy specialists.

Sorry, my children are playing upstairs.

The pandemic interrupted readiness for many students in both areas.

Teams are frequently referring students to the math specialists for interventions that allow them more quickly to reach expected benchmarks than would happen with a regular class instruction or support alone.

Currently, the position of the math specialist allows students to be retaught concepts in small groups, but also allows that math specialist to go into our current classrooms and give extra support during math class.

Classroom teachers simply do not have enough time in their schedules to provide the interventions needed through smaller groups or individual instruction in a similar time frame. As a result, these students would take even longer to reach grade level benchmarks and may fall further behind and become more frustrated with math at a critical juncture in their academic development.

In terms of literacy, some middle school teams start the year with as many as one quarter of their students reading significantly below grade level.

These are not students receiving special education services.

They are regular education students who have readiness gaps. These gaps impact their ability to succeed not only in ELA, but also in science and social studies where they need to be able to read with enough fluency to make meaning of the concepts and make necessary connections.

As a life science teacher, having students with the decodable skills for words such as photosynthesis and cellular respiration is vital in being able to delve into those concepts then.

Those of us who teach those other informational subjects are not trained as literacy teachers, and as a result, we are very dependent on the work of the two literacy specialists who are able to support these students with the skills and strategies they need to succeed in all of our classrooms.

These students, reducing these positions to one would disadvantage many students, again classroom teachers do not have the same amount of time or even the skill set to adequately support these students growth in area of reading.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Sharon Schechter.

can you see me and or hear me yep we can hear you oh great okay um hi so my name is Sharon Schechter I'm coming to the table with several hats I've been a resident of Sharon since 2004 I'm a parent of a graduate of Sharon High School class of 2022 and most recently I was hired as a long-term sub in the world language department at Sharon High School which has been an honor and privilege to serve I'm speaking specifically about the curriculum coordinator position which was recently talked about being extraneous and I just can't put into words uh the degree to which that statement is false um I cannot imagine a uh a harder working person than Dr Maureen Magnin who um to kind of comment on the very first comment of the evening tonight um has given there is no pressure from the curriculum coordinators to any of their um you know of the teachers who they manage to stand up and support them um we are all here because we recognize that without them them in those positions the quality of education would deeply suffer the quality of the teacher's um ability to function and serve would suffer their role is vital it's something that you know had I not had this opportunity to be um had my foot in the door chair in high school I might not have known and thought oh yeah this is an administrative position you know oh maybe we don't need it blah blah blah but like you don't know until you know until you step in that building and you see the unyielding amount of hours that um these coordinators put in it is unbelievable like everybody asked me when I started working what is the high school like I'm like let me just tell you about these teachers and again the coordinator especially um I just can't even begin like it's just the uh the the the just a beginning statement to say that um they are extremely hard working and without them the degree of education that our children receive and again the support our teachers need and deserve would really suffer so I'm just here to um show my support and representate representing those who really um are grateful and would would hate to see the removal of a curriculum coordinator which is such a tremendously vital role and again I wouldn't have known that before and so I come from this very interesting position of having jumped in and seeing this in action myself and um as a taxpayer I couldn't imagine my tax dollars dollars going to a better um venue than supporting a curriculum coordinator it's deeply needed thank you thank you Kristen Finney hi thanks so much Kristen Finney um first grade teacher East Elementary School 24 year teacher 19 awesome years here in Sharon and um thanks for recognizing me I just want to speak um a little bit to the uh assistant principal not only that um position but she's also our educational team leader and I just want us to think a little bit deeper about um how student facing her position actually is um time with students and I think um cutting that position could end up being more costly for the district and will impact students and families um in a great way and in that way what will happen is we'll shift all of those responsibilities now onto building staff they'll absorb those and what will happen is they'll be out of the classroom doing the crisis management the student face time and absorbing that therefore taking time away from the students that they are required to service by legal IEP time um and as a parent of a student on an IEP I would be really cautious frustrated and all over this um because it is an impossible task to do without Cheryl Carlson in our building um and I'm gonna say her name because she is absolutely on a personal note one of the best you're not going to find but I know you're looking financially at her position um but I think we have to understand with the influx of migrant students that we've had the managing of the kindergarten process um and how she is doing that student face time for all of these things and getting students and teachers what they need could end up costing our district compensatory services in the long run for our students on IEPs that's not even to talk about the kids in crisis who are not on IEPs who do not have scheduled services there's not a minute where she's not working with students or teachers so I would just love us to dig a little bit deeper and realize I understand your position I respect it so much and and know that it's a very tough place to be in but when I tell you the impact and the ripple effect it will have you're not going to be able to stipend this position to a teacher to absorb this it is an impossible task and if you've been in teaching as long as I've been in teaching you'll see it it's why I've stayed in Sharon for as long as I have it's an amazing place to be and I feel like we can dig deeper and do better and I really appreciate everyone's creative thinking so really thank you for letting me speak tonight and I appreciate the position that our administration and our school committees and so thank you but I really just want to put that plug in for her position not only as her position but as a person you would be losing an incredible educator thank you thank you Judy Crosby um thank you Avi um so I have two things I wanted to talk about the first is um I would like everyone to and especially the school committee and Dr. Botello pause and acknowledge the grace that was shown by one of your educational leaders on Monday night when she came to this table knowing that no matter what her job next year is gone and she spoke eloquently about preserving the jobs of others and offered that she had come up with a way to do so and it was really upsetting to see no school committee member nor the superintendent acknowledge those words acknowledge the value of what that person who was named employee of the town in summer 2021 has contributed and has continued to contribute despite her job being eliminated she's running around trying to come up with creative ways to save everybody else's jobs and you all showed zero interest in what she had to say be better be leaders recognize when you have valuable people who are trying be respectful of them give it a shot you know you you gave the introduction I asked you to give Bobby on Monday night and tonight and I'm grateful you listened to me but you have to live it and you're not living it and it was embarrassing the second thing is tonight you have it on your agenda to vote transfers without any discussion of them last meeting two meetings ago when they were presented they were flashed up on the screen and went away just as quick and you have it as a vote with no discussion tonight you want to know how you all got here you want to know how you signed a contract that you couldn't afford and didn't know you couldn't afford it you want to know how you didn't know that five hundred twenty thousand dollars has been stripped out of your supply budget last year and this year and you therefore can't afford to buy the curriculum that Julie so desperately wants to buy hey Julie everyone else thank you that's um Namitha Devola Polly um hello I'm sorry for the background noise but I'm currently a student at Sharon high school class of 25 and I see a lot of my former teachers here and I just want to acknowledge that all the hard work the administrators have done to make the school run smoothly I remember when I was a freshman there was no librarian in the school and the library it it was not a place of learning it was not a place to find knowledge it was and I think that sorry by cutting administrative positions we're going to have the same thing but on a bigger scale like there are these departments that need administrators that need someone to coordinate everything because everyone is already stretched out very thin and cutting these positions is not going to be helpful to the school or the community in any way um I heard that the position of dean of academic affairs was one of the uh ones that was proposed to be removed and I just think that these positions though they may not impact um people in as visible of a way I think that they still make a very important difference they make an important difference to students who want to go above and beyond of what the curriculum at Sharon high school offers they make a difference to the students who take the opportunities that the administrators work so hard for us to provide and I think that there are I mean I'm just the student I don't know much about the school or the town but I think that there are other places that the budget could be cut that don't that will not have as detrimental of an effect on Sharon high school Sharon high school students Sharon high school teachers Sharon high school in the Sharon community thank you thank you thank you so much um I see Andrew Tessier Tessier thank you Avi um uh high school teacher at Sharon high school um we understand you are bound to go to priorities meeting this coming Monday with a 3.1227 budget proposal 100 understand that that's why we're having this discussion um and hopefully the the educators who have spoken tonight have made it clear that all of these positions make the teachers jobs possible uh they are impossible without them and so if we are in this position where absolutely everything we've got on here and on stable is painful then the hard choice can't be what do we cut the hard choice has to be is there any possible way to pay this bill because and I say that fully understanding the tax burden the the residents of Sharon in particular face I know that it's no small ask but but if we don't then we are only trading one pain for another community members have come out and made it very clear save the teachers they are our priority but then in the same breath have said have them shoulder the weight of the work from these cut positions and and you know I heard a community member say oh that don't cut my my student's favorite teacher we can't be your student's favorite teacher without those supports holding us up that that that's exactly how this pain we all keep speaking of trickles down and that is how these cuts end up being felt deeply not by us I mean we'll shoulder it that's what we signed up for but it ends up being felt by our students and you know we we need to we need to find a way to figure this out like that that's we understand you've got a job to do and hopefully the community can stand with us and and fight for the funding and education that your kids deserve uh again I know that right now that is not an easy thing to ask but if these are our alternatives you know we got to fight for what makes this town great and what makes this the place that teachers want to teach in that families want to move to because if we don't it's going to fall apart it's it's been a mess for a long time and it's only started to come back together and these cuts are they're just going to blow it up and we we can't do that we and again that's not directed at any of you we understand what your task here is but man like if this is where we're at we got to find a way to do it so please please help us please thank you thanks Andrew uh Khalid Isa hi uh uh first of all I'd like to thank everyone really for the effort being put into this this is not an easy task by any means um and um it's very hard to cut any positions in an institution I think many of us who work in big organization have seen over the last period of time certain positions being cut and it definitely can affect the workflow I just want to reiterate the same the same thing that Mira mentioned at the beginning I I tried to attend as much as possible especially the last meeting on Monday and I tried to say at the end as much as possible I still do not understand exactly what the vote is for in today um maybe it's my bad maybe I couldn't follow exactly everything being said um but as as far as a meeting Monday I didn't feel that there's a firm item to vote on vote in uh unless maybe you would explain this a little bit more today I understand that it seems that we have to be ready for for by Monday with the with the with the cut um if that's what's what's um if that's my understanding thanks thank you Judith Wiener hi thanks I guess my primary point is more concern I understand that from a timing perspective you you have to go to priorities right you have to be able to get that in front of them in a timely manner can I just clarify one thing sorry I won't take your time I just yes sir it's not just multiple people that said priorities we present priorities is is passed that's where the allocation was set we two of us vote on it it's finance committee we present in our budget we're slated to present in front of Monday so all right awesome thank you thank thank you for the clarification um so you have to present to finance committee based upon the the budget allocation that that priorities had given to you that 3.1227

um so I understand that you're under a deadline and I get it um I've done budgeting in a lot of places and so budgeting takes a really long time like months months and months and months and I feel like this is all not so much snuck up on us but it feels like it's only really been brought forward in the last couple of meetings and I'm so grateful to you Avi for having set up the meeting for Monday because I think we needed it we needed an intervention we needed something in the middle but I feel like our planning has just not been there and I feel like the prioritization is still unclear and to echo what Judy Crosby had said earlier I'm very disappointed that Dr. Duceaux raised her hand and said I've I've got some ideas and it doesn't seem like anybody reached out to her prior and teachers were hearing for the very first time on Monday what jobs were potentially going to be cut whereas in other school districts such as I believe Ms. Lewis had pointed out on on the call on Monday the superintendent works directly with the teachers and says here's what I'm going to present and so I feel like the communication's not there the planning's not there the prioritization's not there so while I understand that you have to go forward with something and you have to make a tough decision and I don't envy you that decision for the next go-round please we need budgeting discipline it's not here and while we can't fix where the situation we're in just now we can do better next time so I'm please asking you please please please let's get some discipline in it next year thank you thank you Omar Kanesha-Kandi um hello my name is Omar and I am the student representative for the school committee from the high school and I'd like to start off by thanking everyone for coming to this meeting today and thank you for giving me the time uh to speak as well and um primarily uh today I'll be speaking as a representative of the students of Sharon high school and I acknowledge that oftentimes we the students are completely unaware of the highly complicated nature of tasks given to the many coordinators and administrators in the building and uh quite honestly many of us students have next to no idea of how many of these proposals especially those regarding the coordinators and administrators we have quite honestly next to no contact with will affect us in the future but I speak for every student at the high school when I say that Mr. Palmer our current dean of academic affairs has had such a substantial role at the high school that everyone realizes the necessity to retain his position as dean of academic affairs um he is someone who's had decades of experience and decades of dedicated service and those changes uh to the budget uh just means that our school district very very valuable expertise and guidance in curriculum assessment and career planning and again I am just a student we are all just students and we have had nowhere near as much experience as you have had but we'd like to reiterate it is essential to keep and retain Mr. Palmer's position as dean of academic affairs as it is just essential to the high school community right now and thank you again for allowing me to speak thank you appreciate your advocacy Georgia and Lewis all right thanks um I just want to thank Ms. Weider am I saying her last name right for echoing my sentiments last week um we do do things very different in my district as a matter of fact the same conversation was had with the community before we're at FinCom right now tonight um so uh in the interest of finishing Judy's sentiments I'm going to read them since she was cut off time clock seems to be broken so I think what she was trying to say is the lack of attention that the committees paid to the transfers that the administration made in the violation of state law and fiscal year 23 and this year is how we're here we're about to repeat the same mistakes and with your continued with your continued lack of attention to this matter no budget transfers between cost centers may be made without the approval of the school committee that's the state law and yet hundreds of thousands of dollars was transferred in 23 without your knowing what's happened and then you blessed it retrospectively in the fall of um 24 so that's the completion of Judy's statements mine I just again want to echo what was spoken before me you know I think we need to do better we need to be more transparent we shouldn't these things shouldn't have to be snuck up on and noise made on Facebook for it to come to people's attention and then absolutely no world ever should teachers ratify a contract only to have it months later be sitting here worried about losing their jobs um and that's that's really the bottom line it's just uncomprehensible and I I do appreciate all the work you do but I'm hoping we can do better thank you thanks Leandra's iPhone Leandra can you just state your first and last name oh hi Leandra hi how are you um Leandra McLean um first and last name and I just wanted to uh say I was very disappointed that we came um things came up so quickly with where we were at as far as the budget and it is budgeting is long-term every day part of it absolutely um but as someone who has uh multiple children going through and have gone through the Sharon school system just very sad at the point that we have come to um I would encourage both school committee and Dr. Tello to please work um with Dr. Dussault who um I work with in many other capacities um and really does think outside the box and and I do think that that's something because I would implore um um everyone to please remember these are these are humans that interact with our kids on a daily basis that we're talking about um and to really keep that human factor um as part of a decision thank you thank you Rebecca Fuller good evening thank you I will only speak for a moment but I want to speak directly to Namita and Omar and acknowledge that you are more than just a student you are what we are all here for and we appreciate the passion that you have to come here and give us your feedback on how these positions will impact you your voice has power and you are who we are here for so thank you thank you thank you thank you Mrs.

Flew megan doherty I don't know I'm getting asked to mute one of the other hosts want to try for some reason I'm being asked to unmute and it doesn't seem to be we almost made it through I just tried okay Megan I'm going to come right back to you I'm going to try Rohith Raghavan and um see if maybe we can get this done mute for you uh Rohith uh can you guys hear me yes we can um hi so I'm Rohith I serve as the president of the class of 2025 and honestly this is my first time attending a school committee meeting but I came here today because a lot of my classmates reached out to me about this and they were like hey Rohith do you know what's going on with like the new budget and these cuts that might be happening because the truth is I think every student at SHS feels really privileged to be at SHS um you know you hear stories about schools all the time and how under-resourced they are and how difficult it is for students to get an education whereas at SHS you know the door to the coordinator's office is always open and they're always so warm and welcoming when you ask a question whether it be about participating in a math competition or trying to enter the science fair and the counseling department I can count I can't count on my hands how many times they've helped me whenever I needed something you know you just walk right in and they're always ready to help you and I just want to say that those sort of experiences are what makes SHS special because you don't get those at other schools you don't get that sort of access the ability to know that there's someone that you can rely on a teacher that is there for you that's something that's unique to SHS and I just want to ask everyone here but especially the school committee members to realize that if we threaten that then SHS is just another school in the United States another school in the news that you know worries about high rates of failing high absenteeism and I want to make sure that SHS isn't that place I want to make sure that SHS is somewhere where students feel happy to go and know that there's always going to be somewhere someone there for them thank you thank you so much Megan Doherty we're going to try this again any luck there all right I'm going to cut off public forum after Megan Doherty but Megan if you want to try to log off real quick and log right back on I will take I'll attempt to take your comments here I know you waited and um that might maybe that will work all right Megan has logged off and hopefully we'll log right back on uh and again public forum will conclude with Megan uh see Megan all right Megan I saw you just log back in if you can raise your hand again uh you'll pop right up on my screen there oh looking for Megan here anybody else that's a host sees Megan and can unmute I'm sifting through the crowd here Bobby I tried to unmute her but I can't I can't do it I keep clicking okay I'm sorry Mr. Oherty um if at some point in the meeting something changes there I will certainly still take her comment uh not sure I'm sorry to interrupt I could make Megan a co-host and then take it away and maybe she can unmute herself there just a just a suggestion that's a great suggestion thank you Amy Megan hold on one second so I'm making you a co-host Megan so you should be able to unmute yourself all right I think we keep losing her from the meeting okay all right again if I see Megan's hand up I will still take Megan um but I will throw it over to Julie Ronal for correspondence all right let's try you guys I think is it working it's working we hear you thank you so much for working with me so that remind giving me like a post pandemic stress from being on zoom um thank you for recognizing me um I just wanted to speak a little bit to um our students need social emotionally wise at school and um post pandemic um the students need um so much extra support than what classroom teachers such as myself are able to provide and what I mean by that is um I can't believe it but it's been 12 years in Sharon for me doing jobs such as um recess assistant photocopying assistant um second grade assistant kindergarten assistant and now been in third grade for 10 years and I have not used Sheryl Carlson more this year than I have any other year of teaching and arguably my expertise in teaching has just grown every single year and I have needed her to support kids with so many different types of problems than I have had to deal with before in the past she has expertise and knowledge that is able to help us through the day on top of I was trying to make a quick list she organized and runs car pickup she is there with her expertise for every special ed meeting that we need her to be there for she facilitates those meetings especially ones that are going to be difficult she manages extreme behaviors social emotional events violent behaviors even if we do have them she's our first call that we come to she facilitates dialogues between parents with students that are having repeated difficulties she's responsible for implementing and managing students who have safety plans as they're re-entering school she coordinates um tutoring work to be sent to students when they are in hospitals for long periods of time she investigates every bullying incident and some of those aren't even bullying incidences they just need conversations that we need administrators that are there to have time to be able to do for her she makes sure as all the laws and protocols are followed so that we are meeting the needs of all the children and she really supports her teachers and she has um high love she supports the teachers especially ones that for unknown reasons have high levels of need in their classroom any given year um in addition to that i'm not sure but she is an evaluating member so i do know that having her as an evaluator in the past she is very collaborative um and i'm just not understanding how the role will be able to move away from someone with her expertise um and the amount of time that i see her sitting at her desk before and after school um so i understand that we have many cuts and decisions that need to be made and i just hope we're not making a short-sighted decision with cutting something um that's so valuable to our school community thank you for working on the sound and thank you for my time thank you so much all right i will now throw it to julie roe for correspondence thank you avi the school committee has received 107 pieces of correspondence between february 28 2024 at 9 a.m and march 6 2024 at 9 a.m we received one edition of millie's mecca monday newsletter with information on a visit from the secretary of education and staff from the department of elementary and secondary education as well as programs held over february break the remaining letters all focused on the fiscal year 25 operating budget and fee recommendations presented by the district these letters came from students staff families and community members and expressed a variety of concerns including advocacy for particular programs and staffing throughout the district the district some highlights and common themes included concerns that the budget proposal impacted too many classroom teachers and requests to rethink the budget in order to minimize the impact to students in classrooms suggestions for pro program cuts concerns about possible reductions in ap classes or opportunities to double up on ap and honors level classes requests to closely scrutinize all administrative positions and to make cuts there suggestions to return the full day kindergarten fee and increase fees for athletics and student activities concerns that reintroducing the full day kindergarten fee reflects inequitable practice and would likely impact our youngest learners advocacy for curriculum coordinator with coordinators with explanation about the impact they will cutting these positions will have on students staff and ability to enhance instructional practices they are viewed as quote absolutely essential to the success of each department and the wider school community support for the critical role played by the assistant principals at the elementary level that loss would impact the running of the building from daily social emotional needs to the organization and operation of the building to the support provided to our special education students concerns concerns about the impact that proposed cuts to the budget could have on special education specific letters address the critical importance of bob homer dean of academic affairs specific letters express support for dr dussaud we received multiple letters to advocate for elementary music and art and for the support of math specialists at the elementary schools we received letters to encourage the district to continue to support dei work particularly focused on the positions of dei and my co-directors suggestion that the district provide better explanations and impacts on the loss of positions and support for the important role that counseling plays for our shs students proposals to cut any position from this department were opposed due to the operational impact it would have on activities such as maintaining power school building the master schedule student registration and the impact it would have on daily lives of students and before i hand it back avi may i make a personal comment um some of the um some of the um some of the um some of the um some of the um uh uh made reference to something i said on monday which was perceived as insensitive and um i just want everyone to know that when i'm looking at numbers and titles um it's um it's um it's because i don't want to think about um how the people because i know some of these people and i know how i know personally how how great they are and it's this is a really difficult thing so i i i apologize to any teachers and staff who felt um that i wasn't taking it seriously enough and i assure you that i take it all very seriously and um i'm sorry thanks julie um i think i saw new who had spoken last time as a student rep do we have a student rep update if so just raise your hand if not i'm happy to um certainly not put anyone on the spot all right we will move forward um next up for our discussion items the first is the fy25 operating budget and fees the superintendent's revised budget submission and fee recommendation um we'll then have an attempt to vote to approve the operating budget submission and the vote to approve the fy25 fees uh dr patella on to you great thank you very much um before i i jump into that i just wanted to um uh to kind of uh share that i i did send out a um a communication with um mr orwark in uh he did to vetty rdi that um uh that we had postponed uh the speaking of all autumn allen at the middle school um in order to really greater understand the concerns that um some members of our community had um had expressed um we are um having her come to speak uh to the middle school um next week in the near future um we very much appreciate the the communication that came from members of our community and really wanted to understand and kind of vet the situation more fully and that's why we postponed um i want to kind of really emphasize that you know mills uh ms allen who's coming um the plan for her to speak has always been for her to speak about her book and about her writing um she is you know is uh has no interest in and no plan ever and we in and we were on the same page of this about to speak about uh have her speak about politics and the the event is both a non-religious and non-political as she focused exclusively on speaking about her process as a writer which our kids who do lots of creative writing can relate to um also there were some concerns about her affiliation with um a letter written by some staff at at harvard and you know as we we looked into the situation more you know although she certainly has expressed um you know support for not restricting speech um without scrutiny at the college level she is also you know made clear to us that she doesn't condone speech that is you know hateful or or um or or promotes violence in any way and so you know um we also recognize that world hijab day has become more politicized over the last year as uh situations in the middle east have unfolded and um and just want to emphasize that she's had no affiliation with world hijab day and that we're really really trying to focus our events more locally uh because of we can't control um what an organization might put out there so this is really looking for an effort to continue to expose our students to people of diverse backgrounds who represent a key component of our community and we'll look to do that with various communities as well as tying it to the curriculum in this case writing in in young adult fiction um but we really appreciate you know people who expressed uh their views uh you know i certainly try to be as is you know open-minded as biases and unbiased as possible but no one is perfect i as superintendent are trying to represent the entire community i have personal you know feelings and affiliation being someone who grew up with jewish heritage is have friends and family members in israel and and and and and certainly this is a very difficult time for many in our community um who feel you know the situation very um very significantly and are worried in in in pain and so uh we're doing our very best to kind of work that line um if there are uh folks who really are concerned um about they they're able to you know have their kids um go to another space during the time that we hope most people can take it advantage of it we're also inviting people to come in um you know kind of uh view uh ms allen if they wish um to you know see her presentation but uh i i just wanted to recognize that before we jump into the budget all right um i appreciate you sharing that here on this platform and giving the board an opportunity to speak uh shauna um dr bettella i will have to say i i am disappointed that um of all of the people that we could have brought in for the speaker that this is where we landed especially after such a large contingency of our community expressed um such disappointment in um her outward rhetoric rhetoric on social media um um there are many many other um authors writers inventors people who could have filled this role um that did not have pages and pages of shared um memes and um uh writings that are anti-israeli um and and such um i think i think this is a a big deal a bit of a very big deal and there are um many many students and families in this town who are very disappointed that we are back here um not because we don't want our students to be able to learn different points of view or to be able to learn about diversity or inclusion but by by no means is that the case the fact of the matter is right now we're we're in a very tumultuous time and this is not um a person who i think would represent what we believe in as a as a community um and i'm i'm disappointed to have received an email as a middle school parent um and have been fielding phone calls and text messages all afternoon regarding this i think we've highly missed the mark here and i hope that um you can see that and um your administration can see that when we have more students that are going to be out of a um out of a speaker opting out of a speaker than in we've got a problem um and shauna um adam yeah thank you avi and thank you dr ptello for kind of walking us through uh kind of what what's going on i think what's what's so hard in this situation what elicited you know a really strong um response from the community and in concern was um the the association of of two things right there was kind of the the speaker um and the world to job day um and we've run programs kind of for world to job day in the past and i think they've been uh very successful um in terms of raising awareness and increasing uh just really kind of being in line with the our um diversity equity inclusion goals um i think it is very unfortunate that that organization um became more politicized um and i think the you know the the linkage of uh the speaker and the um the organization i think was was like on on our part right like that this was in an event for uh for that day but this the speaker doctor or miss allen is not related um and so i think it's it's i i just want to say i i know that we um kind of deferred pulled back and looked and i appreciate that both we've clarified that uh miss allen um while has views on uh on the situation but is not looking to to come and speak about them um and also you know if there were any like i had a large concern about um that the letter um with regards to to harvard um i am not concerned with with free speech like i support free speech i think that's okay and i i take heart in the fact that um if miss allen is saying she does not support that uh or is not supporting hateful or genocidal language um even if uh that speech may be protected um and i appreciate going forward knowing that we aren't going to be associating ourselves as a district with um kind of politicized organizations um even if we're gonna uh not even but like we will continue to maintain and do our work from a diversity equity inclusion perspective give exposure um show students uh different uh people who who look like them exposure to uh to normalize differences across cultures religions etc um without being uh associated with uh politicized institution like world of job day in this case so um i think it's a really hard situation uh i just want to say i appreciate the extent that you looked into it and to all those who who are concerned you know i think it's really important to tease apart those differences and say you know politicized organization not something the speaker's associated with not something we're associated with um and uh and just move forward as best we can julie roe thanks avi um i'm just gonna kind of add to what shauna said and kind of sort of what adam said but um i i think the difference between speaking at sharon middle school and speaking like in the world is that there's no expectation that anyone has a right to speak at the middle school and i feel really strongly that if we invited a speaker who said things like autumn allen did on facebook about another group i feel like that person would not be considered to speak at our school so i i i don't think that this is a question of free speech i think they're you know we're inviting guests to speak to our kids and um um i'm disappointed that we didn't pick guests that was you know more um less inflammatory thanks joy um and i guess i'll go last um um i mean dr martello obviously we've had conversations about this for me um you know there are i think a few different levels and i feel to this decision that i feel differently about different levels so first of all you know obviously um shortly after the attacks on israel of october 7th um there were folks in this community who felt very strongly that social media comments made by me uh were offensive and hurtful and you know i was actually incredibly grateful for the opportunity given to me by that by the members of the community who felt that way to sit down to have a conversation to be able to sort of bridge that gap between us and and i and and i truly felt that there were things that i had said that they were able to explain to me why those were wrong and why i hurt them and so having gone through that with members of this community some of whom specifically um do support and are involved in bringing this speaker here i'm torn in the sense that i think that autumn allen has the right to use the platform that she has built by herself i mean she she has a very impressive story and i think that she has the right right to use that platform how she wants i also on the other hand think that there are members of our community who are bringing forward a speaker regardless of the fact that they've been told that that the speaker they're bringing um makes other members of their own community uh uncomfortable and feel hurt so for me on one level as a as a as a person who lives my life a certain way and as an israeli um i feel like autumn allen had to autumn allen's opinions and i personally haven't read anything from on a allen that i feel like would preclude me from welcoming on a mountain to my home but on the other hand i do think autumn allen has shared opinions that she should rightfully i mean she should understand that people are rightfully offended that she would share those opinions um and again i haven't seen her call for the death of israelis or justify the death of israeli children and women and and um elderly but i have seen her call for a ceasefire without ever mentioning the hostages uh i have seen a gap between october 7th and when she first began posting and these things on a personal level do offend me i think julie's last point is really the thing that most disappoints me which is i do believe that you know in a world where we rightfully i want to be clear i'm not making light of the decisions that this district or people within our community usually very much myself make around microaggressions and macroaggressions but in a world where we regularly recognize microaggressions and macroaggressions and biases i don't believe that i do believe that that there are a lot of communities who had someone like autumn allen said something offensive about she would be disinvited and for me it is it is hurtful to think that autumn allen could choose to use her platform the way she does and still be invited to speak to our children um you know right now there are other conflicts in the world that are going on that are very um severe and and in effect this community in particular um one of which being i know it's it was in the news big time at the beginning and now it sort of trails off a little bit but you know there's a conflict between ukraine and russia and i i don't believe that we would have a speaker invited who had you know made claims in favor of russia right now knowing that our community feels very sensitive so but i i i do want to just end by saying i recognize the position that you're in dr patella that i wouldn't i don't envy it i know that regardless of which decision you made there would be people disappointed and hurt um and in the end i know we'll move past this as a community um i don't think it's i don't think the sky has fallen i am disappointed i'm not angry and i and it certainly doesn't make me question uh your decision making or your position i i just it is it does hurt and i'm offended by it on some level but not i don't want to make more of that than it is so um moving forward the budget um i'm going to screen share um right so um the budget is um is is you know very much much being is building upon the conversations we had um on monday um i first of all want you know want to uh just express appreciation to community members that have put forth their um concerns and ideas staff members both in letters and i've met with numerous uh people over the last several weeks um um trying to explain the impacts of various cuts um and then the school committee's dialogue um um throughout this process um what um what i'm trying to do in this proposal is put forth a set of um um reductions that get us to the priorities number um with the the least amount of negative impact um to our schools um all of the cuts are um significant um uh you know our budget that started with um you know kind of proposal with no cuts and with a few additions um is what would have put us in you know good stead to move forward so we're trying to make the best of um of this situation um and uh and i certainly um uh you know know how sensitive this this process is um and appreciate people's input um this proposal is very uh it started as an anchor to thank the julie roe when we were having discussions on monday had uh taken one of my proposals um and kind of uh provided some structure to some changes that were um trying to capture some of the feelings of the community of staff and of the school committee uh so this you know kind of started with her um her um her adjustments as an anchor uh they but they also weigh in all the members of the community as well as again um feedback from um i mean all the members of the committee as well as feedback from the community and and staff um so they start off with um um a consolidation of um the athletic director and an assistant principal into uh uh either you know it's going to either be an athletic director with some ap responsibilities or an ap for athletics because it will need to focus heavily on the athletic director uh role as did the previous position that existed like this uh we then have a consolidation of um two roles into one um assistant superintendent for curriculum and administration which is similar to a role that had existed here with liz murphy in the past um we were able to um um maintain the director of facilities position uh feeling that if we um reduce that as well as the maintenance position that would not that would put us in a really um very very challenging place to make sure we're maintaining our buildings um including our brand new larger high school um so this gives us more uh manpower and we'll look at the existing maintenance and custodial staff to work as a team to really um you know um assume you know all the responsibilities while cutting back in one maintenance role um we um then have um a reduction of 0.5 admin assistance at the high school um you know that's a position that you know um if we're able to add back to that we will but um in order to make some tough decisions um and still maintain you know a highly functioning high school um we're uh looking to reduce that and then um this next uh position it should be 0.5 but um we currently have a guidance uh secretary position that has been vacant uh due to difficulty in filling it um um and but it is a critical position um especially um as we you know cut back the admin assistant um but it's a different type of position um that is really kind of necessary to help support the um many of the um workings of our counselors and um our academic dean and so we're looking to um just fill that with a 0.5 instead of a full position um um the next position um the next position um that is um in this initial 3.12 um a situation reduced is the elementary assistant principal um with the idea that um we would have primarily one special education administrator working across two buildings and um having some teacher leaders help to support with some of the um help to support with some of the assistant principal type duties um we know that's not the same thing uh but in considering the difficulty of the budget um looking to to have that be a creative um you know solution for this year knowing that we will be looking for to reinstate that in the future um we um as we process the the the magnitude of the work of the counseling staff of the counseling staff and the dean of academics we have um uh figured out a way to include um those as not being cut positions so we would be looking to not hire a new head of counseling which is a lesser position and maintain the dean of academics position uh this proposal also as uh julie had um done in her previous iteration um was able to uh was able to maintain the coordinators um was able to maintain the coordinators um across the district but also have them as you'll see um being willing and able to take on additional roles as necessary um as we scrubbed the budget um as we scrubbed the budget even more um you know there had been real some real hesitancy uh at the building level to cut even more deeper in supplies continuing considering the cuts that we've made over the several uh years as well as a hesitancy with professional development but when we're looking at the magnitude of the of the cuts that we're dealing with this year um i i sat down with the middle school and the high school and we were able to identify um numerous more supplies and materials cuts that we could make um what the understanding is with regard to that is there are going to be probably departments that really struggle to stay within their budget and what they're going to need to do is work together as a team is if you know say the math department needs to go over 2,000 in their budget then the world language department will need to spend 2,000 less of their budget so we feel confident with collaboration that even though there will be some deficits in supplies and materials by cutting back this deeply that we can make it through the year and that the trade-off is better than additional cuts we also are looking to do you know a great majority of our professional development in house we are in the midst of starting to develop a system by which our teachers can offer workshops and courses and so we'll look to that um we will be still reimbursing for courses that they take outside which is part of our contract but doing more uh in-house and less um uh expensive um outside providers uh if we do bring in outside providers we'll be looking to um help pay with those with grants that um uh that go beyond the um existing grants that we um have uh in this proposal we're able to um reduce the initial um some of the initial instructional positions that uh had been in um uh my proposal uh so bringing back the social studies teacher at the high school uh not cutting a spanish or science teacher at the high school not cutting cutting the fourth elementary math specialist and maintaining instrumental music uh these cuts were you know things that were uh largely discussed by the committee and by the community in uh in order to minimize um instructional cuts uh that occurred um the cuts to instructional staff that we um we are needing to make in order to reach this um level is uh not we have we there was a request um in the new budget to have 1.5 additional wellness teachers to help with the 11th and 12th uh wellness we're we're in instead of filling both the 1.5 instead of filling both the 1.5 and the 1.5 just filling the 1.5 so um reducing our initial budget ask by a 0.5 wellness in doing so we expect that some kids um may get their uh PE requirements in 11th 12th grade by either a sport or some activity that we um schedule either during the day or after school the requirement for wellness in um or PE in um 11th and 12th and 12th grade is just to have an experience there it doesn't need to be a full course load so we're going to get creative about how to fill that uh responsibility so make sure that every kid gets some kind of athletics or PE um experience in 11th and 12th grade but with a a slightly smaller FTE um the middle school uh math specialists um in this release point went to budget uh would be reduced um we expect that the uh 6th uh 6th uh 6th uh math coordinator would be uh 6th uh math coordinator would be jumping in to help to provide um some intervention for kids as she already does uh to uh lessen the impact of that um as well as working with teachers um to support them in interventions that do occur um either during the classroom or after school um as well as during um their kind of advisory uh flex block um um some and Silkyo similar was to with that if needed um uh more of these supplements um and uh and again uh גent suns Common Etony so that would be steering um that you'd beéis Commission um that will be here um an employer may look for every compare with other ellef mentioned, part of maintaining the coordinators is having them support, yes, the interventions at the middle school, especially considering the cut of two specialists at the middle school.