School Committee - February 12, 2025
Sharon School Committee Meeting Summary - February 12, 2025
Duration: 3 hours 15 minutes (00:00:14 - 01:31:32)
Key Participants:
- Vice Chair Avi (Chairing)
- Select Board Chair Kiana Pierre-Louis
- Superintendent Dr. Botello
- 12 community speakers
- 7 SC members present
Key Discussions & Decisions
1. Vocational School Committee Appointment (00:01:00)
- Appointment: Ronnie Goldstein unanimously approved (6-0 SC vote, 3-0 Select Board) for Southeastern Vocational Tech School Committee
- Qualifications: 20+ years in public education, former Madison Park Technical Voc High School teacher, current Norton Public Schools administrator
- Key Question: Xander asked how to improve Sharon’s representation at vocational schools given competitive admissions
- Parent Relevance: Impacts access to vocational pathways for Sharon students
2. Public Comment Session (00:09:50)
A. Kindergarten Funding (00:13:50)
- Issue: Free full-day kindergarten eliminated due to budget constraints ($4,200/yr tuition remains)
- Proposals:
- Use Costco tax revenue (Katie Conroy)
- One-time free cash allocation (Michelle Thaler)
- Counterargument: Superintendent noted budget process constraints
B. IA Contract Negotiations (00:18:45)
- Staff Concerns:
- 3 vacant IA positions at Cottage Elementary
- IEP/504 compliance challenges (Adrienne DeMarco)
- Retiree bonuses excluded IAs (Mary Friedland)
- Parent Impact: Multiple reports of reduced special ed support
C. DEI Director Support (00:35:50)
- Community Demand: Keep DEI position to support LGBTQ+ students and disability inclusion
- Controversy: Criticism of superintendent’s silence on federal DEI rollbacks
D. Elementary Teacher Cuts (00:44:30)
- Proposal: Eliminate 2 teachers at East Elementary (24-27 students/class)
- Parent Opposition: 5 speakers cited developmental risks in grades 1-2
- Teacher Perspective: Nicole Carroll warned of “being spread too thin”
E. Policy JIH Revisions (00:56:05)
- Concerns: Reduced parental notification rights for student questioning
- Controversy: Matthew Desmarais called language “manipulative” and demanded full committee review
3. FY26 Budget Proposal (01:08:15)
Key Cuts Proposed (if 2.76% increase stands):
| Area | Impact | Savings |
|---|---|---|
| Elementary | 4 teachers cut (22-27 students/class) | $320k |
| Middle School | Combined 7th/8th grade teams | $180k |
| High School | Reduced electives/sections | $275k |
| Central Office | Admin restructuring | $210k |
Contentious Debate:
- Jeremy Kay criticized “lack of trade-off transparency” and called presentation “woeful”
- Shawna Malinky requested detailed central office restructuring plan
- 52 community letters cited calendar conflicts and program priorities
Action Items
- Budget Revote: Priorities Committee meeting Feb 18 to reconsider 2.76% cap
- IA Negotiations: Legal fee disclosure requested via FOIA (Stacy Wilson Newman)
- Public Forum: March 5 SC meeting for final budget vote
Parent Takeaways:
- Kindergarten funding and class sizes remain unresolved
- Strong community push to protect DEI and special education supports
- Athletic/club fees likely increasing to offset cuts
This meeting highlighted growing tensions between fiscal constraints and demands for student support services, with particularly heated debates around elementary staffing and administrative priorities.
Transcript and Video
[SPEAKER_07]: Kiana, the first agenda, oh, so I should clarify, just first of all, welcome to the joint meeting of the Sharon School Committee and the Sharon Select Board.
[SPEAKER_07]: I am acting...
[SPEAKER_07]: In my capacity as vice chair, as the chair of the meeting tonight, our chair is just dealing with a personal situation and she is here, but has asked me to chair the meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have our select board chair here, Ms.
[SPEAKER_07]: Pierre-Louis.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I would ask Kiana, do you want me to call attendance from my board first or would you like to go first?
[SPEAKER_10]: Nope, you can go first. [SPEAKER_10]: Thanks, Avi. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, for school committee, just stay present when I call you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Shawna.
[SPEAKER_14]: Present.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Present.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy?
[SPEAKER_07]: Present.
[SPEAKER_07]: Julie?
[SPEAKER_16]: Present.
[SPEAKER_07]: Alan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Present. [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't see Adam, Shane at the moment, but I am present. [SPEAKER_07]: Avi? [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Kiana, the floor is yours.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_10]: And thank you, Avi.
[SPEAKER_10]: And thank you for inviting us to your school committee meeting briefly. [SPEAKER_10]: And I see Xander, you can say here.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm here.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I don't see Hannah, but she said she's joining.
[SPEAKER_07]: So.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, we can start. [SPEAKER_07]: So we have one very quick agenda item here.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're here for the appointment to the Southeastern Vocational Technical School Committee.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have one application that is Ronnie Goldstein.
[SPEAKER_07]: know i've seen the application i trust school committee members have seen the application of select board members seeing the application uh ronnie is here ronnie thank you for joining us tonight um if there's anybody from either board who would like to ask any question of ronnie uh raise your hand and i'm happy to to call on you otherwise i would just ask ronnie to give us a [SPEAKER_07]: very brief sort of bio.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've seen the application does not have a lot of questions.
[SPEAKER_07]: So we've seen very quick background on education and whatnot. [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe it's more appropriate. [SPEAKER_07]: Ronnie, why don't you give us a one-minute elevator speech on yourself, and then if anybody has questions from either board, we can ask before I entertain a motion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much, Avi. [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you, everybody who's here this evening.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I saw that the application was open, that no one had stepped forward to [SPEAKER_02]: you know, run for that position.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so given my educational background, I've been in public education now for over 20 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cut my teeth in Boston Public Schools many years ago at Madison Park Technical Vocational High School in Roxbury, for those who know what that is in Roxbury Crossing. [SPEAKER_02]: So I worked there for a year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed that experience many, many, many moons ago. [SPEAKER_02]: And then [SPEAKER_02]: I decided to make a move out to the suburbs after a couple of years of being in Boston. [SPEAKER_02]: I've been in Norton public schools ever since then. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I was a teacher for about seven years in Norton.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for the last 13 or so, I think going my 14th year, I've been the assistant principal in that building.
[SPEAKER_02]: And during that time, [SPEAKER_02]: I've worked on a number of different initiatives in the school district that I'm in.
[SPEAKER_02]: The most recent one is the Playbook Initiative, which works to build diversity and strengthen the bonds and ties between different groups of students within the building. [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's just one of the things I've done, but I've done various other things during the course of my years in the building. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm an educator. [SPEAKER_02]: It's what I do. [SPEAKER_02]: It's what I've been doing for a long time. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I saw that this was an opportunity to kind of give back to the town and [SPEAKER_02]: you know, just do something that I felt like I was generally qualified for. [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, that was kind of, you know, what led me down this path. [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, here we are and, you know, I'm happy to answer any questions if anybody has any of anything for me.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are there any questions from the school committee?
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: I can call. [SPEAKER_07]: It's up to you. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to step on your toes.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Xander, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_30]: Ronnie, I'm really excited about your candidacy. [SPEAKER_30]: And I just, I really wanted to ask, I know that there's a lot of interest in the school and Sharon is sometimes challenged to get everyone in that we want. [SPEAKER_30]: Do you have any thoughts about how we can even improve Sharon's representation at the school?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's an excellent question. [SPEAKER_02]: And so one of the things I have often wondered is I'm wondering what, you know, internally, and I don't know the answer to this, but [SPEAKER_02]: I am wondering internally what the mechanisms they use are for determining their placements and how many slots that they determine per district and that sort of thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, with Brockton being a member town for Southeastern, I understand that they're going to get the lion's share just because they're a much larger community.
[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, Brockton does not have its own vocational school. [SPEAKER_02]: One could argue that they probably should, but that's a debate for another time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm assuming that that's the case. [SPEAKER_02]: But I am curious as to how the rest of them get delegated out [SPEAKER_02]: Just speaking from my experience in Norton, I know we have a lot of students every year who do apply every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, there's a lot of disappointment because vocational schools have become much more competitive. [SPEAKER_02]: And they've become, you know, a place that students really want to go. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're a place that, you know, students look at as a real viable alternative. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think there's a lot greater interest in vocational education than there used to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think as a result, you're seeing a much more competitive process. [SPEAKER_02]: At least from my experience, that's what I've seen. [SPEAKER_02]: Because every year we have students who don't get in.
[SPEAKER_02]: that I see eighth graders in my building and I kind of shake my head and I wonder why. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't have a question, but I just have to say, Ronnie, thanks one for stepping up and noticing that there was a whole, they're looking forward. [SPEAKER_10]: They've emailed us probably about four times looking forward to a person. [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm glad that we will have some representative there to do sharing voices. [SPEAKER_10]: I think that's really important.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I think you saw, I think Avi and I had the biggest head nods with Madison Park, but that was where my stomping ground. [SPEAKER_10]: So I know that well, that you were there. [SPEAKER_10]: That's something.
Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: One of my close friends here in Sharon, growing up, his dad taught at Madison Park.
[SPEAKER_07]: And actually, I remember that maybe my junior year in high school, Sharon was unfortunately eliminated in the MIA tournament in a game. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe it was against Madison Park. [SPEAKER_07]: It certainly was at Madison Park. [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, they ran a great ship over there for a number of years. [SPEAKER_02]: They had some really good leadership and, you know, things come and go in cycles. [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, they've run into some tough times and they've had some good times. [SPEAKER_02]: So it just, you know, like anything else, it depends on circumstances. [SPEAKER_02]: And so, and I know, you know, speaking of Southeastern, I know that they've got a pretty good reputation and, you know, certainly, you know, like I said, vocational schools used to have a reputation that, you know, where they were somewhat maligned.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, I think that's really changed. [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that there are, you know, there's a lot more interest in [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people, you know, see the virtue in vocational education, so.
[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: By the way, Hannah, I did, I mean, I'm sorry, Kiana, I don't know if you saw Hannah did join the meeting.
[SPEAKER_09]: I saw her.
[SPEAKER_07]: So for whatever reason, your vote is up first on the agenda. [SPEAKER_07]: So I'll let you entertain a motion and then I'll do the same.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, let me get Hannah unmuted to first see if you feel, did you hear enough, Hannah, to... [SPEAKER_21]: I'm sorry, I was having technical issues.
[SPEAKER_21]: I did. [SPEAKER_21]: It's great to see you, Ronnie. [SPEAKER_21]: Thank you again for stepping up to serve. [SPEAKER_21]: I think your experience certainly fits what is being looked for in terms of representing our community and your experience that you bring to the position. [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_10]: I will entertain a motion from the select board to vote.
[SPEAKER_10]: Ronnie Goldstein to appoint, excuse me, Ronnie Goldstein to the Southeastern Vocational Tech School Committee. [SPEAKER_21]: Is there a specific term?
[SPEAKER_10]: Hold on, Fred.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're getting you unmuted.
[SPEAKER_28]: Yes, the term expires at the state election in November, 2026.
[SPEAKER_28]: So if Ronnie wants to seek reelection, you'd have to run on that at the same time the state legislature is elected.
[SPEAKER_10]: For a term ending November, 2026.
[SPEAKER_30]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_10]: Second.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hearing a motion made and seconding, all those in favor, Hannah?
[SPEAKER_10]: Aye.
[SPEAKER_10]: Xander?
[SPEAKER_07]: Aye.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm an aye, so you are sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: I would entertain a motion to appoint Ronnie Goldstein to the vote Southeastern vocational technical school committee for a term expiring in 2026.
[SPEAKER_09]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_07]: Second.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Allen.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Julie.
[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dan.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I am a yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Motion carries 6-0.
[SPEAKER_07]: Congratulations, Ronnie. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for being willing to step up here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully it's as fun as being on this board is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it'll be very experiential. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm assuming someone from that school committee will be in touch with me at some point in the near future here. [SPEAKER_02]: 8-0-1-A-M.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it'll happen rather quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all. [SPEAKER_07]: I appreciate your vote of confidence. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: So Kiana, without you guys here, we drew straws and it actually turns out the select board is going to continue and handle the rest of the meeting.
[SPEAKER_10]: With that, I will take a motion to adjourn.
[SPEAKER_10]: Board made the joint select board and school committee meeting.
[SPEAKER_10]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_10]: hearing the motion made and seconded.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just all those, well, no. [SPEAKER_10]: All those in favor, Hannah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Aye.
[SPEAKER_10]: Lander.
[SPEAKER_30]: Aye. [SPEAKER_10]: And I'm an aye. [SPEAKER_10]: Goodbye, everybody.
[SPEAKER_10]: Have a great meeting. [SPEAKER_10]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_30]: Have a good meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, school committee.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now that the select board has completed their part, we'll go to public comments.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is there anybody with Adam not here willing to do [SPEAKER_07]: A two-minute timer?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nobody?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nobody willing to help me out here?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll do it. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll do it. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just going to point up on my phone. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not as good at that. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm with the app.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Let me know when you're ready, and I will call first name that I saw there. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Tobin Asplock.
[SPEAKER_17]: Hi everyone, I'm Tobin Asplar, a parent of three kids in the shared public schools and queer community member.
[SPEAKER_17]: In the absence of reassurance from the superintendent, I'm reading a February 7th memo to superintendents from DESE Commissioner Russell D. Johnson.
[SPEAKER_17]: In light of recent communications from the White House and the US Education Department, I want to share the following with you.
[SPEAKER_17]: The Department of Elementary and Secondary Education's educational vision remains unchanged.
[SPEAKER_17]: In its simplest form, it is to create a public education system where every student is seen, heard, and valued, and where all students have the opportunity to thrive. [SPEAKER_17]: This work remains firmly grounded in Massachusetts General Law Chapter 76, Section 5, which prohibits discrimination in public schools based on race, color, sex, gender identity, religion, national origin, or sexual orientation, and the Massachusetts Constitution Article 114, of which prohibits discrimination based on disability. [SPEAKER_17]: Massachusetts schools remain responsible for providing a safe and supportive learning environment for all students and this responsibility under state law is not impacted by recent executive orders at the federal level.
[SPEAKER_17]: Our guidance on non-discrimination on the basis of gender identity in public schools is unchanged. [SPEAKER_17]: It is essential that schools should continue their support for marginalized students, including LGBTQ students, to reinforce that they belong in their school communities.
[SPEAKER_17]: Research consistently demonstrates that when schools take proactive steps to foster inclusivity through strong policies, affirming practices, and supportive educators, students experience improved mental health, [SPEAKER_17]: academic success and overall well-being.
[SPEAKER_17]: School and district leaders are strongly encouraged to continue implementing policies and practices that protect all students, including transgender and non-binary students.
[SPEAKER_17]: The Safe Schools program for LGBTQ students is available to provide training, technical assistance and implementation to support [SPEAKER_17]: support to help schools uphold these commitments.
[SPEAKER_17]: We can work together so that all students in Massachusetts experience a safe, supportive, and affirming learning environment.
[SPEAKER_17]: Thank you so much, full committee.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, Toby. [SPEAKER_07]: Katie Conroy.
[SPEAKER_22]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_22]: Hello, my name is Katie Conroy.
[SPEAKER_22]: Two years ago, I was thrilled to see that free full day kindergarten was going to be offered in our town going forward. [SPEAKER_22]: This past year, I was very discouraged to learn that free full day kindergarten was rescinded indefinitely due to budget constraints.
[SPEAKER_22]: The vast majority of cities and towns in Massachusetts offer free full day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: It is shameful that Sharon is not providing our youngest learners with the same opportunity as most of their peers across Massachusetts. [SPEAKER_22]: Free full-day kindergarten was fought for, supported by our town, and promised to our residents going forward two years ago.
[SPEAKER_22]: Free full-day kindergarten should still be a priority to invest in our children and to attract young families to move to our great town.
[SPEAKER_22]: As costs are rising across the board, the full-day kindergarten tuition and sharing is high and could present young families with tough financial decisions for their family budget. [SPEAKER_22]: I spoke with the school administration regarding the differences between half-day and full-day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: I was told that the school administration strongly encourages all kindergartners to attend full-day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: This is great, as full-day kindergarten has been proven to be extremely beneficial to early childhood development.
[SPEAKER_22]: But it is unfair that it is strongly encouraged in our town while the town continues to charge a significant amount of money for it. [SPEAKER_22]: I understand that there are budget constraints, but I do think it is imperative that our school system budget be reviewed to see what creative solutions can be made to deliver on the promises that were made to Sharon residents.
[SPEAKER_22]: I had the opportunity to speak with the school committee chairwoman, Julie, and the head of the finance committee, Ira.
[SPEAKER_22]: I have thought about creative solutions to fund free full-day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: One idea is using part of the tax revenue from Costco to cover the cost of free full-day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: Since Costco hasn't opened yet, the tax revenue is extra money that will be coming into the town, the majority of which will be going to our school budget. [SPEAKER_22]: Another approach could be requesting a one-time allotment from the Finance Committee from the Free Cash Reserve that goes directly to fund free full-day kindergarten this year, with the understanding that free full-day kindergarten is a significant priority in our town, and it will be included in the budget from the beginning for the 2026-2027 school year going forward. [SPEAKER_22]: There could also be a town vote at the upcoming town meeting to get the residents involved in the decision surrounding the fee for free full-day kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_22]: I would also be happy to brainstorm other alternatives to come up with creative solutions with the school committee to fund free full-day kindergarten beginning in September, since I know it is a high priority item among the school committee. [SPEAKER_22]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just a point of clarity for folks.
[SPEAKER_07]: We do have two opportunities tonight to speak.
[SPEAKER_07]: One is now during public comment, another is during the budget hearing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously it's totally within everyone's right to speak both times or to speak during this open forum or public comment period about budget concerns.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just wanna make sure folks do know that the budget hearing will be an opportunity to speak as well.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just want folks to know. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Amanda Butera.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I'm Amanda Butera.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fifth grade teacher at Cottage, and I'm going to speak about our instructional assistants.
[SPEAKER_00]: I truly could not do my job effectively without their support.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe it will be difficult to find a teacher who says otherwise. [SPEAKER_00]: With three open positions at Cottage, open IA positions at Cottage, resources for support for students are already strained, but still my students, all of my students and I feel supported. [SPEAKER_00]: That is because we have wonderful overqualified IAs [SPEAKER_00]: who, despite being treated unfairly, go above and beyond. [SPEAKER_00]: They monitor behaviors during a whole group lesson, consult with teachers about students, and overall just take care of and love students just as teachers do. [SPEAKER_00]: When I find out the instructional assistant who supports my students [SPEAKER_00]: and class is going to be pulled to cover something else, it changes my day and the student's day for the worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lessons often end up less effective and more difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: Students say, we missed you or where were you when the IA returns.
[SPEAKER_00]: The absence is noticeable to all. [SPEAKER_00]: What the IAs are respectfully asking for is completely reasonable and could and should have been resolved by now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Treating these crucial members of our school community this way is deplorable and disrespectful to the people who often support some of the most vulnerable students in our district.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two minutes is not nearly enough time to express the importance of this job and our instructional assistants deserve the respect of a fair contract at the bare minimum.
[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you IAs for showing up for us lately.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adrienne DeMarco.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hi, thank you. [SPEAKER_11]: I am a parent of four kids, two of which are at heights at the moment, one of which is in the SPED program.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he's a little bit of a unique case because he is in the SPED program solely for physical limitations. [SPEAKER_11]: And his IEP entitles him to an aid, which he was not given this year because they felt that he could just get by with the aid built into kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_11]: But next year, I'm not quite sure how that's going to work because he can't open doors.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm not sure how the schools are ADA compliant without automatic doors available.
[SPEAKER_11]: But I really want to push for [SPEAKER_11]: better funding for the aides in the schools because they are invaluable to our students.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm personally starting to experience the idea that because they're in high demand but short-staffed, that there are students like my son who, even though his IEP has offered him an aide, is not getting one. [SPEAKER_11]: because they're going to students that maybe have higher needs.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so I would really like to push to make sure that we are treating our IAs and our aides with what they deserve, what they need, and making sure that all of our students are able to have the services that they deserve.
[SPEAKER_11]: Looking at the budget, I do see, if I'm reading it correctly, that the superintendent has [SPEAKER_11]: budgeted for keeping the DEI director, which I also would like to highly advocate for.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know a lot of times the DEI director, DEI in general, gets related to like race and LGBTQ issues, but we live in a very ableist society.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I think sometimes we forget what DEI does for our non-neurotypical students and students that have [SPEAKER_11]: Michelle Thaler- Physical limitations and disabilities, and so I think it's incredibly important to our students that we keep this DEI position, so that they have the resources they need to feel like they.
[SPEAKER_11]: Michelle Thaler- belong that they're accepted and that they're able to access everything they need to at the school, thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, Michelle Thaler.
[SPEAKER_20]: Michelle Thaler- hear me.
[SPEAKER_20]: Michelle Thaler- there, my name is Michelle and I am a parent to.
[SPEAKER_20]: Soon to be two boys in the public school system. [SPEAKER_20]: My older son is in first grade and my younger son will be starting kindergarten next year at East.
[SPEAKER_20]: We are in the unique position of kind of being on the crosshairs of two tough budgetary considerations for next year, one of which the prospect of free kindergarten and the second, which in my view is far more challenging.
[SPEAKER_20]: a far more worthy priority of addressing, which is retaining the current four classes in first and second grade at East.
[SPEAKER_20]: I see that the superintendent's budget proposal for fiscal 25 and 26 proposes cutting the number of first grade and second grade classrooms at East from the current four down to three.
[SPEAKER_20]: And yes, I understand that budgets are incredibly squeezed.
[SPEAKER_20]: That's an understatement. [SPEAKER_20]: However, I really do believe that taking this action would be a major, major disservice to the first and second grade students at East.
[SPEAKER_20]: First and second grade are prime years for identifying and often beginning to address social, emotional, and learning disabilities in children. [SPEAKER_20]: It's often the tip of the iceberg.
[SPEAKER_20]: East's rising second grade class includes a large number of children with special needs, including many with IEPs and 504s that are primarily managed by teachers.
[SPEAKER_20]: My son, who will be in second grade next year at East, fits into this latter category of having 504 accommodations.
[SPEAKER_20]: He is far from the only child in his classroom that requires additional attention from his teacher, who is brilliant, tireless, and yet already stretched thin amongst her 18 students.
[SPEAKER_20]: Increasing class numbers to 25 or 26 first or second graders would be a recipe for disaster.
[SPEAKER_20]: The teachers, as well as many parents, have reported that this was the case when it happened two years ago.
[SPEAKER_20]: Doing so would limit already squeezed teachers from serving and observing children at a vital developmental stage where problems are either identified and addressed or overlooked and left to grow into bigger, more challenging learning-related problems.
[SPEAKER_20]: Teacher attention would be disproportionately focused on the very highest needs children, leading to inadequate attention for children with more moderate or less obvious needs.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're still here at the time. [SPEAKER_20]: Just a heads up.
[SPEAKER_20]: I just want to say that it's a hard choice.
[SPEAKER_20]: It's in many ways an awful choice to have to make. [SPEAKER_20]: But I know from my perspective, and I believe from the perspective of many other parents, [SPEAKER_20]: The idea of cutting teachers in both first and second grade and increasing those class sizes is ultimately really going to cost the children.
[SPEAKER_20]: And if it is a choice between free K and cutting those teachers, I really urge the school committee and the entire group here to really stand behind keeping those teachers intact and keeping those classrooms intact so that [SPEAKER_20]: all children get attention, not just the very highest needs children with behavioral issues, which is what would happen if you cut those classes.
[SPEAKER_20]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Judy Crosby.
[SPEAKER_18]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_18]: I have a few things I want to talk about. [SPEAKER_18]: The first is the mental health and wellbeing of our students, which I think has been really unfortunately impacted by the past couple of school committee meetings.
[SPEAKER_18]: I appreciated at the last meeting that Shanna asked to have the discrimination statement read.
[SPEAKER_18]: I think you need to understand the level of stress that's pushing down on some of our students. [SPEAKER_18]: And I was horrified to learn that the high school is considering doing away with ACEs, which used to be called Eagle Block, which for those of you who graduated before Eagle Block came in, [SPEAKER_18]: or haven't had high schoolers go through, Eagle Block, which is now ACEs, was put in place to help with our kids' mental health.
[SPEAKER_18]: I'm afraid it's gonna take a kid dying by suicide for folks to realize what you are doing when you allow this to happen. [SPEAKER_18]: It was a release valve in our kids' day.
[SPEAKER_18]: And to remove it effectively from the schedule next year is to ignore the work and the progress that this district has tried to make on this issue.
[SPEAKER_18]: I also wanted to talk about the IAs.
[SPEAKER_18]: You have a kid that wandered off at cottage and that could have ended incredibly badly.
[SPEAKER_18]: And you have a mom reporting that in her IEP, her student is entitled to an aid and it's not being provided.
[SPEAKER_18]: And the kid can't open a door.
[SPEAKER_18]: My kid couldn't open the door last year to the front or two years ago to the front of her high school.
[SPEAKER_18]: I know what that feels like. [SPEAKER_18]: It's infuriating.
[SPEAKER_18]: But my child was meaningfully older and didn't need an aid.
[SPEAKER_18]: This particular parent's child does.
[SPEAKER_18]: And you all sit here and shake your heads, nod your heads and do nothing.
[SPEAKER_18]: You need to figure it out.
[SPEAKER_18]: Lastly, fees for clubs.
[SPEAKER_18]: I know this is being discussed after the budget forum, which I object to.
[SPEAKER_18]: But since it is being discussed after the budget forum, I wanted to point out, because drama is regularly one that's mentioned, drama has four seasons, usually. [SPEAKER_18]: They do four shows a year.
[SPEAKER_18]: Kids may participate in one to four.
[SPEAKER_18]: So when you're discussing fees for a club like drama, please be aware that if you're going to charge everyone 100 bucks, that may be a kid who only does the fall musical and does sports the rest of the year.
[SPEAKER_18]: I think you need to delve a little deeper into how each of these clubs work and not just go with one size fits all, which is what was discussed the one size fits all last year. [SPEAKER_18]: And I'm glad you didn't implement it yet, but I worry that you will now.
[SPEAKER_18]: And you will take away yet another thing that gives our kids access from a mental health standpoint. [SPEAKER_18]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Next up, I've got Craig.
[SPEAKER_07]: Craig, before you speak, could you just state your full name, just because it only says Craig on the screen, and then go ahead.
[SPEAKER_23]: Can you hear me?
[SPEAKER_09]: We can hear you.
[SPEAKER_23]: All right, yeah, Craig Sherman.
[SPEAKER_23]: Got a daughter in first grade at East, and a couple years from now, I will have another one in kindergarten.
[SPEAKER_23]: On the issue of cutting...
[SPEAKER_23]: first or second grade teachers, I didn't come prepared with written statements like Michelle or Katie, but certainly it's well documented, and I don't have the information in front of me right this second, but it's well documented. [SPEAKER_23]: I think we'd all agree, larger class size, lower academic achievement.
[SPEAKER_23]: I mean, there's a correlation between a student's success and being able to have [SPEAKER_23]: more focused attention from their teacher.
[SPEAKER_23]: When I was a kid, Sharon High class of 96, this town, our school system was routinely top 10 in the state.
[SPEAKER_23]: And in the last 10, 12 years as I've been following it, we've fallen behind a bunch of other districts that have risen in the ranks. [SPEAKER_23]: And we're not doing our kids [SPEAKER_23]: a favor.
[SPEAKER_23]: Yeah, we're still top 25 or whatever it might be, top 30, top 25, but when I grew up here, every kid had a lot at their disposal.
[SPEAKER_23]: It's a real shame to see that going away bit by bit, year by year.
[SPEAKER_23]: A major piece of student success, I think, is maintaining a reasonable class size.
[SPEAKER_23]: And to Michelle's point, if you've got a class of 24 first graders or second graders, they're crazy.
[SPEAKER_23]: And I don't say that pejoratively. [SPEAKER_23]: I mean, anyone who has little kids knows, six and seven-year-olds, they are prone to be bouncing off the walls or whatever.
[SPEAKER_23]: And it's going to create problems. [SPEAKER_23]: Teachers will be more stressed out.
[SPEAKER_23]: quality of education will decline.
[SPEAKER_23]: And we are, we'll be doing our kids a disservice. [SPEAKER_23]: And I just can't emphasize enough that it's, I think it's a mistake, even cutting a teacher.
[SPEAKER_23]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Next up, I've got Matthew Desmarais.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hi, thanks.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have two children in Sharon's schools, one in kindergarten at Cottage and one in the substantial separate classroom at the ECC.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to comment on the proposed policy changes to JIH questioning and searches.
[SPEAKER_06]: Our current policy is the strongest that the policy can be. [SPEAKER_06]: Students under 18 must have a parent or guardian present, no exceptions.
[SPEAKER_06]: Your proposed policy changes remove that right from students 14 to 18, and it allows for these minor children to be harassed and intimidated by school officials or law enforcement, be it federal, state, or local.
[SPEAKER_06]: The proposed policy states, quote, consistent with the SRO MOU, parents or guardians shall be given a reasonable opportunity to be present.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who defines what is reasonable and who enforces it? [SPEAKER_06]: The SRO MOU specifically states in the second paragraph of section one, quote, this memorandum does not and may not be relied upon to create any rights substantive or procedural enforceable by any civil, by any person, excuse me, in any civil or criminal matter.
[SPEAKER_06]: Referencing the SRO MOU in any school committee policy changes appears to be in violation of the agreement and to me appears to be used here as a tool to create the illusion of legitimacy to the proposed JIH questioning and searches policy changes.
[SPEAKER_06]: to ensure any future policy updates are free from political agenda or manipulative wordsmithing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm requesting that the school committee dissolve the policy subcommittee and the work of policy changes be placed on the whole committee so there's more transparency and elected representation to the policy revision process.
[SPEAKER_06]: The policy subcommittee chair has consistently stated here [SPEAKER_06]: Matthew Decker- And here in committee meetings and an online forums, that the proposed changes strengthens students rights when it in fact weakens their rights to say this strengthens students rights is misleading and.
[SPEAKER_06]: Matthew Decker- flat out lie also. [SPEAKER_07]: Matthew Decker- Thank you, Matthew.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Stacy Wilson Newman.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you hear me OK? [SPEAKER_07]: We can.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, great. [SPEAKER_04]: And apologies for keeping my camera off. [SPEAKER_04]: I had dental surgery today.
[SPEAKER_04]: No worries. [SPEAKER_04]: I am a resident of Sharon and I'm also a teacher in the Sharon Public Schools and I'm speaking now as a resident.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as a resident and taxpayer of our community, I'd like to speak out against the cost of these drawn out IA negotiations.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only are they costly to the morale and pocketbooks of hardworking IAs who deserve a living wage, they're also costly to us as taxpayers.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd like to make a formal request to be provided with the total amount [SPEAKER_04]: that the school committee has been paying out and or has been billed in legal fees to the law offices of Valerio, Hillman, and Dominello for their legal services related to IA negotiations from January 1st, 2024, which is not even how long the [SPEAKER_04]: The IAs have been without a contract. [SPEAKER_04]: It's been way longer. [SPEAKER_04]: But from January 1st, 2024 to the present date, if this information is not readily available, I kindly request that it be provided within 10 days under the Freedom of Information Act.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as we are also discussing the general budget, I would also like to request the total amount of all legal fees that the town has paid out during the same time period.
[SPEAKER_04]: Our priorities should be on supporting our education professionals so that they can support our students.
[SPEAKER_04]: Paying large amounts of money to lawyers takes away from these priorities, especially when we face budget shortfalls.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for your attention to this matter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: Wendy MacArthur.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just want to continue expressing my disappointment in our superintendent and his lack of support in our marginalized students.
[SPEAKER_13]: While Desi and other superintendents across the state and our own Massachusetts government have condemned the hate speech being spread towards these students, [SPEAKER_13]: The Sharon staff and families, our superintendent has remained silent. [SPEAKER_13]: He has not taken the time to even send a brief message to student staff or community affirming that Sharon schools stand with all students.
[SPEAKER_13]: After speaking with several teachers and administration from his previous district, because let me tell you, teachers talk. [SPEAKER_13]: It is clear that this pattern of inaction and uncaring for these groups is absolutely nothing new.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I urge the school committee to consider this when evaluating his leadership come evaluation time.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is not the type of leadership a school district such as Sharon wants or needs.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'd also like to say our special teachers and instructional assistants are necessary for every student to have the education they deserve in Sharon.
[SPEAKER_13]: And please consider them when looking at your budget. [SPEAKER_13]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dr.
Kim Hokanson.
[SPEAKER_19]: Thanks, Avi.
[SPEAKER_19]: My name is Kim Hokanson. [SPEAKER_19]: I have one child at East and one child in middle school, and I'll keep it very brief.
[SPEAKER_19]: First, I do appreciate the support of the DEI director, echoing this idea of it involves all different kinds of inclusion, including those with disabilities.
[SPEAKER_19]: I think that there is a lot of ableism, and it's really wonderful for us to continue building there.
[SPEAKER_19]: I also want to just give my unequivocal support and hope that we can more loudly support our youth who are in the LGBTQIA plus community, [SPEAKER_19]: It's not only the right thing to do, but it's also suicide prevention. [SPEAKER_19]: It is just a good public health measure to support our children wherever they fall in their positionality.
[SPEAKER_19]: Thanks, y'all.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Next up, Sarah Karamita.
[SPEAKER_12]: Good evening.
[SPEAKER_12]: And thank you for the opportunity to speak before you this evening. [SPEAKER_12]: So my name is Sarah Karamita. [SPEAKER_12]: I have two children at East Elementary School and one will be entering second grade next year. [SPEAKER_12]: And I am here tonight to express my strong opposition to the proposal in the 2025-2026 budget eliminating two teachers at East. [SPEAKER_12]: This would result in a material increase in class size.
[SPEAKER_12]: and it's a plan that appears to disproportionately fall on one elementary school.
[SPEAKER_12]: While I understand that this decision is being driven by budget concerns and that difficult decisions must be made, I am deeply concerned that this decision will have significant negative consequences for the students, teachers, and overall quality of education.
[SPEAKER_12]: Strong relationships with teachers help students develop confidence, curiosity, and a love of learning. [SPEAKER_12]: Smaller class sizes enables teachers to better understand each child's strengths and weaknesses and enable students to receive more personalized instruction and support where needed.
[SPEAKER_12]: Smaller class sizes further enables teachers to develop relationships with the parents and involve them in the learning process.
[SPEAKER_12]: I know that we have appreciated and benefited from the ability to communicate with our children's teachers and have a window into what they're learning. [SPEAKER_12]: Expanding the number of students in a classroom by this margin hinders the ability [SPEAKER_12]: of the teachers to effectively communicate with the parents.
[SPEAKER_12]: Expanding the class size will also amplify the strain on our teachers.
[SPEAKER_12]: Teachers are responsible for managing the diverse needs of their students, providing social emotional support, and providing high quality instruction.
[SPEAKER_12]: With larger class sizes, it becomes harder to maintain a safe, effective learning environment.
[SPEAKER_12]: This can lead to burnout and teacher turnover, which negatively affects our community.
[SPEAKER_12]: Our teachers are a valuable asset to our community and are the backbone of our schools. [SPEAKER_12]: It is incumbent upon this body to create an environment where they feel supported to do their best work.
[SPEAKER_12]: It is for these reasons I strongly urge you to reject that proposal to eliminate these two teachers at East Elementary School.
[SPEAKER_12]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nicole Carroll.
[SPEAKER_18]: Hi, thank you. [SPEAKER_25]: My name is Nicole Carroll.
[SPEAKER_25]: I have been a teacher for 11 years, nine of which have been spent in third grade at East Elementary School.
[SPEAKER_25]: I apologize, I'm reading off of something I wrote on my phone.
[SPEAKER_25]: I just wanted to speak on the behalf of possibly cutting a first and second grade section at East Elementary. [SPEAKER_25]: I understand on paper that [SPEAKER_25]: These numbers may be considered low, but I really want to stress the importance of smaller class sizes, specifically at the elementary level.
[SPEAKER_25]: On a daily basis, teachers, IAs, support staff, specialists are making hundreds of decisions in any given moment, thinking about the variety of needs of our students. [SPEAKER_25]: These needs include academic needs, social, emotional, behavioral, English learner, and so much more. [SPEAKER_25]: And these include both identified and non-identified students. [SPEAKER_25]: Thinking about like a student who's on an IEP versus a general ed student.
[SPEAKER_25]: Increasing class sizes at the elementary level is going to impact our ability to meet these various needs of our students.
[SPEAKER_25]: Needs that have only continued to increase in recent years. [SPEAKER_25]: And I know I've spoke about this issue in the past. [SPEAKER_25]: I'm asking on behalf of teachers and parents at East Elementary School to please avoid cutting any sections at the elementary level.
[SPEAKER_25]: This is not just a matter of teachers simply not wanting larger classrooms. [SPEAKER_25]: This is a matter of already being spread too thin and the desire to do truly what is best for each and every single one of our students.
[SPEAKER_25]: No cut is going to be considered a good cut. [SPEAKER_25]: And I understand these are really difficult [SPEAKER_25]: decisions that need to be made. [SPEAKER_25]: But I really want you to think about the impact that these decisions are going to make on our youngest population of students.
[SPEAKER_25]: And I also want you to think about teacher retention with this as well.
[SPEAKER_25]: Cutting sections, possibly bringing them back in different years, having different numbers at different grade levels.
[SPEAKER_25]: That's not how we're going to retain amazing and hardworking teachers in our schools.
[SPEAKER_25]: And I also just want to throw in a huge support for our IAs who are [SPEAKER_25]: helping us on the front lines day after day. [SPEAKER_25]: Again, like I said, these are not easy decisions, but I really want you to think about the impact it's going to have directly on these students.
[SPEAKER_25]: Thank you so much for your time. [SPEAKER_25]: I appreciate it. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mary Friedland.
[SPEAKER_29]: Can you hear me?
[SPEAKER_07]: You sure can. [SPEAKER_29]: Great. [SPEAKER_29]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_29]: I am an IA at Cottage Street School in a separate program.
[SPEAKER_29]: And I wanted to talk about the fact that earlier this week, the teaching staff and the Sharon Public Schools received a letter from the superintendent letting us know that you were offering an early retirement bonus to teachers in Units A and B. [SPEAKER_29]: This bonus was going to consist of a $15,000 bonus plus $8,000 sick time buyback.
[SPEAKER_29]: This was not offered to IAs.
[SPEAKER_29]: The superintendent came back later in the afternoon and said it's not offered to IAs because they are needed in the school system and they are not being asked to leave.
[SPEAKER_29]: This tells you something about the necessity of the IAs. [SPEAKER_29]: After the lengthy IA contract negotiations during which the bargaining team has been told that there is no money for us, suddenly there's money to be found. [SPEAKER_29]: I wish to ask that instead of paying staff to leave, you find a way to pay IAs to stay by offering fair compensation and a living wage.
[SPEAKER_29]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll now go to our Secretary, Shawna Malinke, for correspondence.
[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_14]: Hold on one second. [SPEAKER_14]: Let me just pull it up.
[SPEAKER_14]: All right.
[SPEAKER_14]: The school committee has received 52 pieces. [SPEAKER_14]: Can you hear me?
[SPEAKER_14]: We can hear you. [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_14]: Okay. [SPEAKER_14]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_14]: Just wanted to make sure. [SPEAKER_14]: The school committee has received 52 pieces of correspondence between January 22nd, 2025 at 9 a.m.
[SPEAKER_14]: and February 12th, 2025 at 9 a.m.
[SPEAKER_14]: We received feedback from many members in the community regarding the 2025-26 school year calendar.
[SPEAKER_14]: The themes of the feedback include requests to consider a federal holiday-only calendar, which include a petition signed by community members, the impacts that frequent holiday disruptions can have on the educational process, requests to consider a holiday observance as an excused absence, granting the second day off for Rosh Hashanah does not send a message of inclusion, [SPEAKER_14]: requests for a more objective collection and consideration of data when determining whether to cancel school.
[SPEAKER_14]: calendar seems to reflect the considerations of one group within the Community request to support a before Labor Day start for the Community for the calendar and request to ensure that the calendar and as early in June as possible.
[SPEAKER_14]: A couple of parents wrote to provide feedback on kindergarten, which included a request to continue the discussions regarding free full-day kindergarten and to share the experiences of a student who is enrolled in the half-day kindergarten program this year and how the structure of that program impacted the student.
[SPEAKER_14]: A community member wrote in with questions regarding the elementary master plan process and a timeline, as well as the relationship to the capital budget request for FY26.
[SPEAKER_14]: a parent wrote in to request their concerns regarding the special education program and district support for students who require services.
[SPEAKER_14]: We received the February edition of the Sharon High School Library Newsletter and the Heights Library happenings.
[SPEAKER_14]: There were several letters that highlighted the critical role of IAs with a request for the district to reach a contract agreement with the IAs.
[SPEAKER_14]: We received several editions of Millie's METCO newsletter that highlighted events in the METCO districts and provided information on the METCO Pathways Fair and the availability of Saturday tutoring in METCO headquarters.
[SPEAKER_14]: A parent wrote in to express their concerns regarding the recent incident with a student at Cottage Elementary School who was missing from the school grounds.
[SPEAKER_14]: A parent from the Early Childhood Center wrote on behalf of the EECPTO [SPEAKER_14]: regarding the sudden departure of the EEC director and communication regarding plans and next step. [SPEAKER_14]: The parent wrote to ask for clarification on the school committee request that cameras be turned on for participants who wish to be recognized during the school committee meeting.
[SPEAKER_14]: There were many letters sent to the school committee regarding the proposed update of policy JIH, student questioning and searches.
[SPEAKER_14]: These letters expressed concerns regarding the updated language of the policy, including how this new policy may impact marginalized students, immigrants, students with disabilities, and students of color.
[SPEAKER_14]: Concerns that the proposed language does not apply, only apply to the Sharon Police Department, but rather general quote-unquote law enforcement.
[SPEAKER_14]: the age change on the updated policy proposal, support for the parental notification and parental presence prior to any questioning of a student, concerns about the vagueness of some of the language used in new policy, such as reasonable opportunity and defining of definition of quote unquote questioning, the role that the legal representation might play throughout this process.
[SPEAKER_14]: A parent wrote to request [SPEAKER_14]: that the district take all necessary precautions to ensure that students who are transported via special education vans are safe and properly supported and supervised.
[SPEAKER_14]: The Norfolk County Sheriff's Department wrote to share information on their upcoming Youth Leadership Academy, which is held at various locations.
[SPEAKER_14]: a community member wrote to express their concerns regarding a school committee member who was invited to attend a recent Sharon for Liberty meeting and the message that attendance could send about the school committee's commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion in our schools.
[SPEAKER_14]: Many members of the community have reached out to the school committee regarding the FY26 operating budget with feedback on potential cuts and areas of concern, including class size impacts for potential teacher reductions at the elementary level, support for the elementary music program and for the elementary music during the school day, concerns regarding the art reduction at the elementary level, impact of teacher reductions at Sharon Middle School, Sharon High School athletic program needs.
[SPEAKER_14]: We received an invitation to open town hall meeting with Congressman Jake Auchincloss on February 6, 2025.
[SPEAKER_14]: The school committee was invited to attend the upcoming Sharon Plurals Network events being held on February 26, 2025 and April 2, 2025.
[SPEAKER_14]: Finally, several community members wrote to express their concerns regarding recent federal actions and executive orders and how they may affect the integrity of education in the district.
[SPEAKER_14]: as well as impact on marginalized communities.
[SPEAKER_14]: One letter recognized the district's commitment to support the safety and wellbeing of all students and asked that they remain committed to those goals with a particular focus on students in the LGBTQ plus community.
[SPEAKER_14]: I think that is the longest one I've ever read.
[SPEAKER_14]: That is it for correspondence.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, thank you, Shauna.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do we have an update from a student representative tonight? [SPEAKER_07]: If we do, just raise your hand.
[SPEAKER_07]: I will gladly call on you.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do not see anything from student reference. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll throw it to Superintendent Dr. Botello for his general updates.
[SPEAKER_30]: Great. [SPEAKER_30]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_27]: I'm going to start off with just a little update on the capital process.
[SPEAKER_27]: So back on October 9th, we presented our first capital budget proposal.
[SPEAKER_27]: Then on December 2nd, it was reviewed at the capital meeting. [SPEAKER_27]: During that meeting, they asked us to submit an updated on that with requests placed in priority position. [SPEAKER_27]: On January 22nd, the approved revised prioritized proposal was submitted.
[SPEAKER_27]: was voted on and it included below the line priority items which the district determined could be addressed in future capital budgets.
[SPEAKER_27]: Since then, the district determined based on enrollment projections that the height construction costs could be deferred to FY27, that we wouldn't need those in this next coming year so that we could [SPEAKER_27]: conclude them on the five-year plan, but not on the FY26 request.
[SPEAKER_27]: So based upon that, on February 3rd, the Capital Light Committee voted [SPEAKER_27]: voted our proposal.
[SPEAKER_27]: This again took off the Heights construction for the FY26.
[SPEAKER_27]: It increased portable radios to 30,000 and increased document cameras to 20,000.
[SPEAKER_27]: It did not include any of those below the line items that were presented on January 22nd. [SPEAKER_27]: Then on February 10th, the Finance Committee deliberated and approved. [SPEAKER_27]: So we're in very good shape. [SPEAKER_27]: We appreciate the Capital Outlay Committee for really supporting our needs in the upcoming year and the Finance Committee's support as well.
[SPEAKER_27]: And these are, you know, as you've seen before, are what are included in those capital requests. [SPEAKER_27]: So it's nothing new, just good news in that it's been supported by both Capital Outlay and FinCon.
[SPEAKER_27]: I got good news from the [SPEAKER_27]: the tech collaborative that all of the districts in tech have voted to accept Sharon into the collaborative.
[SPEAKER_27]: So that will begin on July 1st, 2025.
[SPEAKER_27]: As we've discussed previously, there's lots of benefits that come with that acceptance.
[SPEAKER_27]: In Holliston, we were a strong member of tech collaborative. [SPEAKER_27]: And if you could go into the next slide, Jane, we can show some of the benefits.
[SPEAKER_27]: So reduced tuition, they have some great special education programs.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so some reduced tuition for those programs.
[SPEAKER_27]: There's also we get 80 seats per year included in our membership for online courses for middle and high school students.
[SPEAKER_27]: The tech runs TECA, which is one of the two approved programs. [SPEAKER_27]: online schools in the state.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so these courses are with similar instructors to the TECA program.
[SPEAKER_27]: We also have student internships and career exploration programs and college fairs, tons of great professional development at discounted rates, job likes for all different types of groups, whether it might be special education directors or assistant principals or coordinators of various kinds. [SPEAKER_27]: discounted tuition for teachers or IAs for master's and bachelor's degrees programs.
[SPEAKER_27]: Tech Student Data Privacy Alliance, free for tech members. [SPEAKER_27]: We would be spending some money on this even if we didn't belong to tech because it's so important, and this way you would get that benefit for free.
[SPEAKER_27]: There's also tons of purchasing programs that allow us to purchase and have some cost benefit there. [SPEAKER_27]: There's no question that the fee that we pay will pay off in many, many ways.
[SPEAKER_27]: General update, there's going to be an international night on April 3rd, and additional communication with that as we're looking forward to really celebrating our different, you know, where our heritage of various groups, as many groups as possible within our Sharon community on April 3rd. [SPEAKER_27]: We haven't gotten final word from the Teacher's Association on the 25th, 26th calendar, but we should be getting that soon. [SPEAKER_27]: I had a great meeting, thanks to Kim Newton, who's a parent at Cottage, set up a meeting with the Special Olympics Unified Champions Schools representatives.
[SPEAKER_27]: These are folks who work with some of our unified sports that we do and help to support those efforts throughout the country, these regional representatives, but there's also a unified sports [SPEAKER_27]: a champion schools program that looks to expand Unified Sports, as well as expanding other inclusive opportunities through youth leadership and whole school engagement.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so it's just they're a great resource for us.
[SPEAKER_27]: Unified Sports has been a tremendous success, and it's something we want to continue to [SPEAKER_27]: expand as well as look like other opportunities, whether they be peer opportunities for kids to do drama productions together or dance or various things that really bring together all members of our community and especially some of our students with severe special needs with their peers throughout the community, knowing that all kids benefit from these types of opportunities to work together. [SPEAKER_27]: Also, February vacation will be next week, so we hope everyone enjoys the break.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks, Dr. Metello. [SPEAKER_07]: Does anybody from the table have any questions about general updates before we move to budget?
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Seeing no questions, Dr. Metello, I'll throw it back to you for the FY26 operating budget update discussion.
[SPEAKER_27]: The first thing I want to kind of just mention is, yeah, this is like my proposal if the priorities stuck at 2.76, that we continue to look for creative ways to make it less negatively impactful.
[SPEAKER_27]: Please know that the cuts that are part of this are not things that I... [SPEAKER_27]: really support.
[SPEAKER_27]: It's just tough decisions need to be considered when you don't have a budget that meets your full needs. [SPEAKER_27]: So I just want to make sure that people understand that. [SPEAKER_27]: And I certainly appreciate and respect people's feedback on.
[SPEAKER_27]: We're hopeful that the 2.76 will [SPEAKER_27]: change next week at priorities and that we'll be able to make some positive changes in the reductions that would need to be done if the budget stuck at 2.76. [SPEAKER_27]: So the budget process first is again is based upon enrollment in core services and programming. [SPEAKER_27]: So we look at what the enrollment, how that's shifting from year to year.
[SPEAKER_27]: We look at the core services and programming that we actually must provide, as well as looking at other programming that is really, really important to our educational program, but can be considered for reductions in really horrible budget years.
[SPEAKER_27]: We have to consider the contractual obligations and mandated services and make sure those those are built in. [SPEAKER_27]: Those are not things that we can [SPEAKER_27]: Can even consider cutting, we have to look at fixed costs to keep our buildings and keep our kids get our kids to school.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then we also align to both the, the goals and district plan of the sound public schools as well as the school committee budget guidelines.
[SPEAKER_27]: Just a refresher on the budget guidelines that were put forth that's really looking to make sure that we did have a plan that meets the the the allocation that's provided by the town again we're hopeful that that will be altered in increased next week.
[SPEAKER_27]: Wanted to make sure that the new ELA curriculum rollout was supported since there's such an investment in the time to choose a new program and adopt a new program and make sure that it really worked for kids.
[SPEAKER_27]: Looking to strengthen our special education. [SPEAKER_27]: And that's why part of the budget includes restoring our elementary special education coordinator, as well as making sure that there's no cuts in special education staffing and some additions in schools. [SPEAKER_27]: Clerical supports also maintaining small classes at the elementary level.
[SPEAKER_27]: So that's why I think it will be a really strong consideration to look at what the impacts of possible cuts would be and decide which ones still allow us to maintain class size. [SPEAKER_27]: That's acceptable here in sharing and which ones do not. [SPEAKER_27]: The addition of a high school assistant principal to make sure that the supports are adequate for such a good sized and really complex building at the high school.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then also looking at if we could reduce or eliminate the kindergarten fee.
[SPEAKER_27]: So my initial proposed budget was a 5.46%
increase.
[SPEAKER_27]: But the current increase that is being [SPEAKER_27]: presented as our target priorities is 2.76. [SPEAKER_27]: So in order to close that gap, there needed to be outlined 1,459,787.70
worth of cuts.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so those potential cuts, which we'll review again today, and people will have an opportunity to comment on further, [SPEAKER_27]: Are what I'm going to show again on February 18th, the next Tuesday, the priorities committee will meet again. [SPEAKER_27]: And as is customary.
[SPEAKER_27]: You know, we're expecting that there'll be a rise in that budget target.
[SPEAKER_27]: Hopefully it will be a sizable one, but, and then following.
[SPEAKER_27]: You know, the, that, that meeting will present a revised budget based upon that.
[SPEAKER_27]: So just looking at the next steps in what's happened thus far.
[SPEAKER_27]: So the preliminary allocation was 276 on January 27th, the governor budget was released to gave us a little bit more information on what we could expect as far as town revenue on February 12th.
[SPEAKER_27]: Today we have the public budget hearing where we can get all kinds of input, both from the public and the committee on next week.
[SPEAKER_27]: We'll have a revised target.
[SPEAKER_27]: Then based upon the feedback from today's budget hearing, as well as discussions at the table, as well as continuing to analysis of impacts, I will on February 26th, propose a budget that meets the new target.
[SPEAKER_27]: On March 5th, the school committee is scheduled to vote to approve a budget. [SPEAKER_27]: And then we'll go to finance committee on March 10th to present that budget.
[SPEAKER_27]: So currently based upon the 2.76, if we, again, I do not expect it to stick at 2.76, but if for some reason that was necessary, these are the types of cuts that we would have to consider.
[SPEAKER_27]: So elementary teachers, [SPEAKER_27]: And as people discussed, you know, elementary teachers at grade 1 and 2 would likely result in numbers between 22 and 24 students in grade 22.
[SPEAKER_27]: Right now it looks like 22, but if you have some move-ins over the summer, that's why I put that higher range. [SPEAKER_27]: there's a slight chance that it could be lower than that, but that's the best projections we could have for grade one and two if any of those grade one and two cuts were made.
[SPEAKER_27]: Then in addition, if we had to do a fourth cut, that would need to be done more at the upper elementary level, and that would result in like 25 or 26 based upon current numbers.
[SPEAKER_27]: in those grade levels.
[SPEAKER_27]: In all those situations, there's a couple different places where those could be considered if any of these cuts needed to be made.
[SPEAKER_27]: And those cuts would be made, you know, [SPEAKER_27]: once we knew a little further in the spring, once we knew exactly which places those would be able to maintain the lowest class size as possible.
[SPEAKER_27]: Again, none of those cuts are things that I think are in the best interest of our kids. [SPEAKER_27]: And like we did have a couple of cuts in one edition that we have already made that really allow us to maintain the low class size that we aspire to.
[SPEAKER_27]: But these would be additional cuts that would push us above where we typically target for our elementary class sizes.
[SPEAKER_27]: We're also looking at, you know, small cuts potentially in art and library in order to [SPEAKER_27]: save some money.
[SPEAKER_27]: This would be based upon the number of classes that art and library teachers would need to teach based upon next year's enrollment.
[SPEAKER_27]: But also we are doing some exploration of looking at all of our specialists and our flesh programs to see if there's a way to reconfigure things that still maintain [SPEAKER_27]: our world language Spanish program, but perhaps in a different way that might be even stronger in some ways, while trying to see if we can gain any efficiencies by seeing if we can have some of our specialist teachers travel less. [SPEAKER_27]: So we're exploring that as well. [SPEAKER_27]: So the elementary art and [SPEAKER_27]: and librarian, we're looking at that in conjunction with the entire specialist schedule to look to see if there's any potential savings while maintaining strong services in those areas.
[SPEAKER_27]: Also another place that is a potential savings is elementary instrumental music requires us to have additional FTEs in that area.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so if that was changed to more of a voluntary after-school programming, that would save money.
[SPEAKER_27]: In that area, we do have a lot of kids who take advantage of the in-school program, and I think it really is valuable. [SPEAKER_27]: Obviously, again, I think a lot of things are valuable, but I do think it's kind of unique that we have so many kids involved. [SPEAKER_27]: So, you know, that's a place where we have to consider, but it's not something that in an ideal world we would touch. [SPEAKER_27]: Middle school.
[SPEAKER_27]: School would be two.
[SPEAKER_27]: Looking at enrollment in seventh and eighth grade would, instead of having three full teams in seventh and eighth grade, we would have one team in seventh and eighth grade, which would teach, you know, two seventh grade sections and two eighth grade sections.
[SPEAKER_27]: So it would be a combined team. [SPEAKER_27]: That would result in class sizes.
[SPEAKER_27]: Again, the lower number is...
[SPEAKER_27]: is based upon current enrollment and based upon being able to really make sure those class sizes are as even as possible.
[SPEAKER_27]: Because in seventh and eighth grade, we have some different levels, especially in mathematics, it doesn't allow you to perfectly just divide the groups evenly. [SPEAKER_27]: So that's why you have that range.
[SPEAKER_27]: But so it'd be between 22 to 25 kids.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then again, in one of the grades, it would be between 22 and 27.
[SPEAKER_27]: I put the 25 and the 27. [SPEAKER_27]: I think that's kind of a worst case scenario. [SPEAKER_27]: I think the 22, 23, 24, 25 is probably... [SPEAKER_27]: more likely.
[SPEAKER_27]: The 26-27 is not likely, but I still want to put it there just in case because of, again, the way that kids get placed into the different level classes.
[SPEAKER_27]: That can cause an anomaly in that some classes are bigger and they could go up higher than desired.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then high school, if we were to look at high school cuts, the impacts, it's really hard to determine exactly what the impacts would be until kids actually select in our placement classes, which doesn't happen until ultimately until kind of late spring, especially when you're [SPEAKER_27]: considering not only just the initial placements, but also overrides that account.
[SPEAKER_27]: But what our staff is doing is they're looking at, okay, if we look at what we have as far as sections and numbers this year, [SPEAKER_27]: and we had to reduce, you know, say four sections in a department, what would be the potential impact of that?
[SPEAKER_27]: And using that as a projection of the potential impact for next year.
[SPEAKER_27]: But also we need to realize that when we do make cuts in sections, that also reduces the number of periods that [SPEAKER_27]: when a particular course or leveled course is offered.
[SPEAKER_27]: So it might impact the kid's ability to get exactly what they want in their schedule in a given year.
[SPEAKER_27]: And that's always the case, but the least, the less sections you have, it's more of a case. [SPEAKER_27]: So none of this can be like projected perfectly until you actually run the whole schedule and then you have [SPEAKER_27]: numerous weeks and months of hand scheduling to still try to get kids as many things while still having class sizes be within the contractual limits.
[SPEAKER_27]: But these are some of the possibilities that in Spanish, and I say Spanish because many of our kids take Spanish.
[SPEAKER_27]: So because of that, you have [SPEAKER_27]: more options as far as, you know, maybe taking six sections of a Spanish course and breaking it down to five or four and still maintaining, you know, relatively decent class sizes. [SPEAKER_27]: So Spanish would be that.
[SPEAKER_27]: In all these areas, if we had a choice of not offering something because we don't have enough [SPEAKER_27]: FTEs to do so or to consider a multi-level course, that would be something we want to consider.
[SPEAKER_27]: We know that the committee has not generally supported multi-level courses for philosophical reasons, but it would be something that we want to consider for budgetary reasons if it still allows a kid to take a course that they want. [SPEAKER_27]: In English, there'll be concerned again about large class sizes all of this. [SPEAKER_27]: We have concern about caseload limits. [SPEAKER_27]: We've been able to have all teachers, except for perhaps 1 at the high school state within that 100 caseload limit. [SPEAKER_27]: And so we would be it'd be difficult to have that, you know, as we cut back classes in sections.
[SPEAKER_27]: So we'd have to be really aware of that and either stay within those caseload limits, which limits to some degree kids choices or work to have an MOA with the union that will allow us to go above that.
[SPEAKER_27]: There is a provision in there, but it is something that has to be agreed upon. [SPEAKER_27]: You know, one of the things that definitely gets more impacted as you reduce sections are some of the electives that might have lower enrollment and aren't the core courses that everyone needs to take.
[SPEAKER_27]: So those are the types of things that get impacted in English. [SPEAKER_27]: Similarly in math, some of the electives get impacted, as well as the ability for students to double up in math can get impacted when you have last course sections.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so those are things that are thing.
[SPEAKER_27]: Math has been an area where math, in order to really get kids all of the offerings, math department has been asking for more FTEs. [SPEAKER_27]: So this is an area where [SPEAKER_27]: You know, because of what kids are really wanting would be a difficult place to cut.
[SPEAKER_27]: But certainly we're going to have to measure it against cuts in other areas and consider it as well.
[SPEAKER_27]: Science, similarly, some of the electives in making sure that, you know, our APs run, you know, in multiple times. [SPEAKER_27]: So kids have opportunities to take them.
[SPEAKER_27]: Those things would be jeopardized.
[SPEAKER_27]: as well as we have a lot of kids who do double up in, in science. [SPEAKER_27]: So, um, that makes it more difficult, um, because there might be a section of a course that would allow a kid to double up, but because it's under enrolled, it's not able to be offered.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, and then, um, visual arts, we would look at that and it would result in the reduction or elimination of some of the specialty courses in digital photography and animation that a small number of kids take, but are very, very valuable.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, [SPEAKER_27]: Also, we are exploring looking at technology and library media, as well as creative wellness solutions where students might be able to get some of their wellness credits by sports and other activities that they do.
[SPEAKER_27]: So those are other areas that we're exploring when we look at those reductions at the high school. [SPEAKER_27]: District restructuring would really be, it would be kind of reducing some of our admin at the central office level.
[SPEAKER_27]: And it also would be looking at finding savings by when we're replacing some admin positions across the district. [SPEAKER_27]: being able to hire replacements at at least a somewhat lower cost and have savings there.
[SPEAKER_27]: So that's what that is. [SPEAKER_27]: That really would be looking at the restructuring.
[SPEAKER_27]: We really need to kind of have to maintain my position, an assistant superintendent for curriculum instruction, a special education director, a finance assistant superintendent. [SPEAKER_27]: So we'll be looking at HR and DEI and [SPEAKER_27]: the executive assistant of which who is retiring at the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so looking at, we definitely still need that. [SPEAKER_27]: We used to have two of those positions. [SPEAKER_27]: We need to keep one, but it might be looking at what responsibilities that has to help with some of the reductions that would have occurred.
[SPEAKER_27]: And this is building upon reductions we've had over the last several years. [SPEAKER_27]: So it certainly would impact systems responsiveness and improvement efforts, but we would try to, we would do our very best to maintain all of the core [SPEAKER_27]: Um, responsibilities, but with a lesser staff, um, and then we also again, um, had talked about increases in athletic fees in transportation fee increases. [SPEAKER_27]: And as we get the revised budget number for, um.
[SPEAKER_27]: for next week with priorities, looking at, you know, exactly what those fee proposals might be to try to minimize the impacts on services that are cut to kids.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so that's.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, keeping in mind, this is, [SPEAKER_07]: a presentation we have seen before.
[SPEAKER_07]: I will take questions from the table. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll start with Julie.
[SPEAKER_16]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_16]: Thanks, Avi.
[SPEAKER_16]: Hi, everyone. [SPEAKER_16]: Hi, Dr. Botehlo. [SPEAKER_16]: I was wondering if, just to put everything in context, if you could talk about the drivers of the budget and what's going on that make us need to have so many cuts.
[SPEAKER_27]: Well, if we go back to kind of our initial presentations, just our contractual obligations, as well as utilities costs, as well as mandated specialization costs, result in a sizable increase already.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then, you know, factoring in that the priorities target [SPEAKER_27]: is not allowing for those kind of set increases as well as the request by the committee to reinstate our coordinator at the elementary level as well as [SPEAKER_27]: You know, the need to reinstate an assistant principal at the high school, considering it's the only high school in the area that has close to that size with only 1 assistant principal.
[SPEAKER_27]: So those things together. [SPEAKER_27]: You know, result in a budget that, you know, is not able to be met at a 2.76
bus.
[SPEAKER_27]: you know, cuts across the district would need to be done.
[SPEAKER_27]: I talked to my colleague in Walpole and they're in a similar position. [SPEAKER_27]: They're asking for a 5.75 increase. [SPEAKER_27]: If not, they'll have 15 or some odd cuts.
[SPEAKER_27]: It's not something that's unique to us.
[SPEAKER_27]: We haven't been able to fund schools in a way that keeps up with the increasing costs. [SPEAKER_27]: And therefore, we have to make these decisions. [SPEAKER_27]: Typically, over the course of my career, we see like three [SPEAKER_27]: three kind of good budget years, three kind of mediocre and three bad. [SPEAKER_27]: We're not seeing the three good anymore.
[SPEAKER_27]: We're seeing mediocre and bad.
[SPEAKER_27]: And so that's really hurting abilities and especially obviously here in Sharon with a tax base that is not very commercially based, it's even more difficult.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks, Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, still getting back from the flu.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't want to sound like a broken record, but in this presentation, it's still very unclear what trade-offs we're being asked to make.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's unclear what non-mandatory spending items have been prioritized.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is the third time I've given this feedback, and we've seen the same slides three times.
[SPEAKER_08]: And in a tough budget year, we've wasted almost two months reviewing the same slides and making the same requests over and over.
[SPEAKER_08]: In our priorities that we submitted at the beginning of this process, the single top priority was maintaining elementary classroom size.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I've noted it's unclear what we are prioritizing over that.
[SPEAKER_08]: So and I think the discussion we need to be having is, you know, if I'm reading the packet for posting correctly, we have the option between keeping a director or two elementary teachers.
[SPEAKER_08]: We still continue to fund [SPEAKER_08]: foreign language for elementary school at the cost of a quarter million dollars.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now I know if we get rid of that program, it's not all gonna be recruit because the time would have to be used elsewhere in other ways.
[SPEAKER_08]: But a lot of other districts, including Brookline, have eliminated that.
[SPEAKER_27]: But do you understand, Jeremy, it's not a cost savings.
[SPEAKER_27]: That world language, I've said it several times, the world language time allows us to provide contractual preparation time for our teachers.
[SPEAKER_27]: So if we cut our world language program, we have to increase...
[SPEAKER_27]: are specialists in other areas, it's not a cost savings.
[SPEAKER_27]: We are trying to look, as I said, to see if we can reconfigure that period to great gain some efficiencies, and that would be a cost savings, but it wouldn't necessarily need to- That's something that we should be looking at as part of this, right? [SPEAKER_08]: That's what we are doing.
[SPEAKER_08]: And we have not looked at the non-mandatory things that we are keeping as part of this.
[SPEAKER_27]: Do you want me to repeat those for you?
[SPEAKER_27]: As I've said, I can do it again.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sure, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_27]: Counselors and support providers. [SPEAKER_27]: So we have not, when we talk about the mental health needs of our kids in the already low numbers, as far as counselor and other specialists, we have not, we've considered those, but we have not cut those.
[SPEAKER_27]: They're not mandatory unless they're part of a kid IEP.
[SPEAKER_27]: Literacy and math specialists. [SPEAKER_27]: Those are things we considered cutting back. [SPEAKER_27]: We already cut back last year.
[SPEAKER_27]: We considered cutting them more.
[SPEAKER_27]: We have not cut them more.
[SPEAKER_27]: Those could be considered.
[SPEAKER_27]: They're not part of my proposals. [SPEAKER_27]: They could be part of yours if you think that those are worthwhile.
[SPEAKER_27]: I've said these before.
[SPEAKER_27]: Technology support and full-time library media services. [SPEAKER_27]: We are considering that, but there is a drawback.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't want to interrupt you. [SPEAKER_08]: These have not been in any of the presentations and there has not been an organized discussion. [SPEAKER_27]: Yes, they have. [SPEAKER_27]: All of this has been in the presentation.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, this is a poor quality presentation and it is a disservice to this community. [SPEAKER_08]: If you look at, I implore you to look at peer districts and the presentations that their admin have submitted and the process they've gone through instead of this 11th hour insanity.
[SPEAKER_08]: We are not taking this seriously and we're expecting, it's not customary to receive more money from the priorities committee.
[SPEAKER_08]: We should be having these discussions. [SPEAKER_27]: What towns have you, have you been in where there's not, I haven't been in, I've worked in five districts.
[SPEAKER_27]: The initial priorities target in all of those districts customarily goes up. [SPEAKER_08]: That's not true. [SPEAKER_27]: I don't know where you're getting that information from. [SPEAKER_08]: But compare your presentation that of other districts, and this is woeful.
[SPEAKER_08]: I want you to look at what other districts do and understand how you are not meeting the minimal bar.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay?
[SPEAKER_08]: We need to discuss [SPEAKER_08]: what we are keeping. [SPEAKER_08]: And you say it now, it has not been in prior meetings and it has not been in prior prioritizations.
[SPEAKER_07]: So Jeremy, I just want to interject here. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to cut you off, either one of you. [SPEAKER_07]: I think this is a valuable conversation. [SPEAKER_07]: I think you have every right to speak your mind here.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do just want to remind you that at the last meeting, you made a motion.
[SPEAKER_07]: I supported that motion, made a friendly amendment, which you accepted, which was for these things, which you are, in my opinion, appropriately asking for, but after priorities. [SPEAKER_07]: And the only thing that I would interject is, [SPEAKER_07]: The word customary, I can, you know, semantically, I heard it and I'm not sure either, but I will tell you that historically, if we replace it with the word historically, I've sat on priorities.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is my fourth year. [SPEAKER_07]: I've never not seen the, an increase come from the first meeting to the last.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is historically the way the priorities does work.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I, again, I just want to interject with those two points, but.
[SPEAKER_08]: I just think there are a lot of items in here that have been worth discussion and we've been asking for. [SPEAKER_08]: And yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: We have made a motion to force him to provide it after the priorities meeting.
[SPEAKER_08]: But that is helpful information that should have started at the beginning of these budget discussions.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because we have no idea, no clear idea of what we are prioritizing now, what cost over some of these cuts.
[SPEAKER_08]: So this process has been behind closed doors.
[SPEAKER_08]: It has not been transparent.
[SPEAKER_08]: It has not been inclusive of the community and it's not acceptable.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's my, that's my two cents.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sean.
[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_14]: Dr. Patel, a couple of questions.
[SPEAKER_14]: I know that you had mentioned restructuring of central office.
[SPEAKER_14]: I would like to see that parceled out to see what exactly that's going to look like. [SPEAKER_14]: You had mentioned restructuring the DEI, looking at the executives.
[SPEAKER_14]: And, you know, the need to have as the core, right, in terms of functioning as a school district.
[SPEAKER_14]: I'd like to see more of that to see where the cost savings can be [SPEAKER_14]: pulled from central office so that we don't have to get to teachers.
[SPEAKER_14]: I think we are a heavy district with central office administration and any restructuring is a great idea.
[SPEAKER_14]: I know it makes it harder, but that's what I would like to request that.
[SPEAKER_14]: Also, I was wondering if [SPEAKER_14]: only because knowing the intricacies of how a high school runs, has there been any preliminary scheduling done running numbers versus this year versus last year for classes?
[SPEAKER_14]: Like I know we've already started the process in my school district.
[SPEAKER_14]: So I was wondering if Sharon has, if we've done that, if Mr. Palmer is here or not.
[SPEAKER_14]: Because that will help, that will help too, in terms of understanding where we can cut a position or a class FTE. [SPEAKER_27]: Yeah, we're not in a place in that process to have hard enough numbers to be very helpful. [SPEAKER_27]: They're just in the process of beginning to select their classes. [SPEAKER_27]: And then again, there's that there in our district, there is substantial change during that override process, which is, you know, further down the line. [SPEAKER_27]: So we still have [SPEAKER_27]: quite a bit of time in that process before we have those hard numbers.
[SPEAKER_14]: Okay. [SPEAKER_14]: And then can you please explain to me the, sorry, I lied. [SPEAKER_14]: I had said I did too. [SPEAKER_14]: I have three things.
[SPEAKER_14]: Can you please explain to me [SPEAKER_14]: the impact on the middle school.
[SPEAKER_14]: I've heard, I've heard different things in terms of like, it's funny that I hear things from the community in terms of like, quote unquote rumors, but I want to understand what it's actually going to look like for our seventh and eighth graders.
[SPEAKER_14]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_27]: In seventh and eighth grade, there'd be a third team that includes a special educator as well as an English teacher, a math teacher, a science teacher, a social studies teacher.
[SPEAKER_27]: And those teachers would teach two seventh grade groups and two eighth grade groups.
[SPEAKER_27]: So it would be a split team that teaches both grade levels and spreads them across instead of having a separate third team in seventh grade and a separate third team in eighth grade.
[SPEAKER_27]: And the result would be those class sizes because we still would spread kids kind of evenly.
[SPEAKER_27]: The number of seventh graders on that team would be much smaller than the first two teams and eighth graders as well.
[SPEAKER_27]: And we'd spread those off and result in class sizes between [SPEAKER_27]: 22 and 25, but potentially one of the grades a little bit higher in some sections, not across the board.
[SPEAKER_27]: The average would be more like 23, but because of levels, they can range where you might have some sections that are higher numbers and some sections that are lower numbers.
[SPEAKER_14]: So I just want to put it out there right now. [SPEAKER_14]: So we currently, our current model is three teams on each grade level, okay? [SPEAKER_14]: Correct. [SPEAKER_14]: So just so I make sure I understand, but also the community understands the impact, you're saying that of the seventh grade team, one teacher, one English teacher, right? [SPEAKER_14]: If they were to hypothetically teach four sections of an English class, two sections would be seventh grade [SPEAKER_14]: And two sections would be eighth grade English?
[SPEAKER_27]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_14]: Right? [SPEAKER_14]: Is that what you're saying?
[SPEAKER_27]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_27]: At least they would... I want to make sure I'm getting... They definitely would be teaching a couple of seventh grade and a couple of eighth grade. [SPEAKER_27]: It might be actually...
[SPEAKER_27]: two and three, I believe. [SPEAKER_27]: So you'd take the smaller, the larger of the two grades and they would teach three.
[SPEAKER_27]: Yeah, but they would teach both seventh and eighth grade, correct?
[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, so it's not eliminating, it's not necessarily eliminating a team.
[SPEAKER_14]: It falls more on the teacher, right?
[SPEAKER_14]: Correct? [SPEAKER_14]: Because the team would still...
Sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I might be able to clarify this. [SPEAKER_07]: What I'm hearing, and correct me if I'm wrong, Dr. Tello, is if there's currently three teams in seven and three teams in eight, that's six teams combined over the two.
[SPEAKER_07]: There now will be five teams combined over the two.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there will be two teams that specifically teach seven, two teams that specifically teach eight.
[SPEAKER_07]: So essentially you're condensing the number of kids that used to be split over three over two and a half. [SPEAKER_07]: Two and a half.
Okay. [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, thank you. [SPEAKER_14]: I was trying to figure it out in my head, but also wanted to make sure that we were clear for the community.
[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I have three things I want to say.
[SPEAKER_05]: The first is that I think nobody that works for our public schools gets up in the morning and tries to do anything but ensure we're the best district possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: None of the school committee members ran to be on the school committee [SPEAKER_05]: to do anything other than to make sure we have the best district possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: None of the parents, none of the teachers, none of the community members sitting here in this Zoom room are here for any of the reasons that they care about this being the best district possible. [SPEAKER_05]: And while, you know, some of us ran on the idea that, man, we're down to 25 or man, we're out of the top 10, I think sometimes we forget that we are still an excellent top-notch district that offers far less than other districts [SPEAKER_05]: an extraordinary education for our students. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it is a disservice to, and I say this respectfully to my colleague, to use this time to yell at our superintendent.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we are a better district.
[SPEAKER_05]: You look at the front page of the Boston Globe right now, there's an allegation in Brookline that $8 million went missing from the budget, or excuse me, not went missing, was misappropriated from special education funds.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not the town of Sharon.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have our disagreements.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have our concerns.
[SPEAKER_05]: There need not be among any of us yelling at this table. [SPEAKER_05]: Secondly, I disagree subsequently with my colleague, Mr. Kay, because I think, and I hope this is an important point.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dr. Botehlo and team put out a line item budget.
[SPEAKER_05]: The way I perceive what Dr. Botehlo has done in this process is he's looked at the line item budget and given us his opinion about the things that he would cut [SPEAKER_05]: within the parameters that he's been given and we've been given by the town.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything else remains on the table.
[SPEAKER_05]: He chose the things that he presented today.
[SPEAKER_05]: If we believe as members of the school committee that there are things that should be cut instead, we have access to the full line of budget and we can start doing that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Indeed, that's what happened last year when the school committee last year started going through the line of budget and deciding [SPEAKER_05]: things that were going to replace the recommendations that were made by the educational leadership in our district.
[SPEAKER_05]: So to me, it's not about, well, what trade-offs did Dr. Botello make?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's made very clear what trade-offs he's made.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the question now of, okay, do we agree with his trade-offs?
[SPEAKER_05]: Do we want to make other trade-offs?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's my view.
[SPEAKER_05]: I might have missed this in Shauna's questioning, so forgive me because I was making notes.
[SPEAKER_05]: But Dr. Botehlo, I don't want to get too far in the weeds on class size, particularly since the priorities number may change.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it is my understanding that in general, the end of the day goal with respect to difficult cuts that might have to happen to class sizes at the elementary school is that there's generally a leveling across grades and schools, meaning ideally that [SPEAKER_05]: if you're a fourth grade student at East and you're a fourth grade student at Cottage and you're a fourth grade student at Heights, that generally the class sizes that you're going to experience are about the same.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that generally the goal of what is trying to be achieved when you're looking at class sizes at the elementary level?
[SPEAKER_27]: That's generally the goal.
[SPEAKER_27]: There, and again, as I mentioned, if we do have to reduce sections beyond what [SPEAKER_27]: is proposed in my initial budget, the higher budget, we would have to, as we have new kids entering, start busing kids into other schools in order to make sure that those class sizes are maintained as evenly as possible.
[SPEAKER_27]: So we wouldn't shift kids out of their homeschool [SPEAKER_27]: That they're in now, which could cause some anomalies.
[SPEAKER_27]: But for the most part, we maintain pretty equally across we make decisions in order to have those class sizes be equal across grade levels in the schools as much as possible.
[SPEAKER_27]: And then again, when we have additional kids, say, say, there was a grade level, like, like, I'm looking at grade 2 cottage is projecting. [SPEAKER_27]: to be a little bit smaller currently.
[SPEAKER_27]: We have new kids move in instead of them perhaps going to East or to go to Heights, their home school.
[SPEAKER_27]: They would, in this case, if we didn't have additional sections, need to be going to Cottage.
[SPEAKER_27]: And that would, with just five or six kids entering, that would make that grade level pretty much similar to East and Heights.
[SPEAKER_27]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_16]: Thanks Avi and I just wanted to make 2 points.
[SPEAKER_16]: The 1st point that I wanted to make was what I was getting at in my 1st question is that the main driver of our budget is salaries and so really salaries are the only thing. [SPEAKER_16]: that can be cut. [SPEAKER_16]: We've already tried cutting supplies and everything.
[SPEAKER_16]: Second, I would like to make the point that I was here last year. [SPEAKER_16]: Many of us were here last year. [SPEAKER_16]: And we were also presented with the need for [SPEAKER_16]: I think it was $1.5 million in cuts.
[SPEAKER_16]: That's the number in my head.
[SPEAKER_16]: And we all discussed those cuts for two hours.
[SPEAKER_16]: And finally, because they were so big, I suggested we use the kindergarten money.
[SPEAKER_16]: And all we did was postpone last year's cuts to this year. [SPEAKER_16]: And now we want the kindergarten back. [SPEAKER_16]: But the question is, last year, if we had made the extra half a million in cuts instead of kindergarten, [SPEAKER_16]: Where would we be this year?
[SPEAKER_16]: I have no idea. [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think it worked out well.
[SPEAKER_16]: It was not a great idea.
[SPEAKER_16]: But I just wanted to say that the cuts that we're making are not in a framework of nice to have, need to have.
[SPEAKER_16]: And I don't even think I've seen that framework in about four years or five years.
[SPEAKER_16]: It's not one that we've been using. [SPEAKER_16]: We've been starting with enrollments.
[SPEAKER_16]: and looking at what happens after that, that we need to accommodate the enrollment.
[SPEAKER_16]: I think this process has actually been very transparent. [SPEAKER_16]: We got all of this information much earlier in December than we normally do. [SPEAKER_16]: And I feel like, Jeremy, if you have had, you've spoken up in meetings, but you haven't really done anything substantive. [SPEAKER_16]: You haven't really put forward any ideas.
[SPEAKER_16]: And I really think that [SPEAKER_16]: You know, every time your hand goes up, we know it's just going to be the same thing over and over again. [SPEAKER_16]: I think you had plenty of opportunity to start a discussion, ask other people questions, and maybe you should take advantage of that time now.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm going to step in here real quick, just because, Julie, even though I'm chairing the meeting, I respect your role as chair and don't feel like it's my right to cut you off there. [SPEAKER_07]: But I do just want to remind this committee, and I think for the most part right now, we're on the right side, barely, but on the right side of professionally respectful conversation.
[SPEAKER_07]: It does feel like we're just one moment away from going to the wrong side of that line. [SPEAKER_07]: And I just want to say that [SPEAKER_07]: We were seven elected people.
[SPEAKER_07]: We represent the people of this town and every single one of us is sitting here because we were elected by the people of the town.
[SPEAKER_07]: No one is more elected or less elected than the rest of us.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there are people in this town who feel very differently about this budget.
[SPEAKER_07]: There are people in this town that feel very differently about the budget process. [SPEAKER_07]: There are people who are going to be happy in the end, not very many of them. [SPEAKER_07]: There are a lot of people who are gonna be unhappy for very different reasons. [SPEAKER_07]: And personally, I just wanna say in whatever capacity I'm serving on this committee at this moment, I'm chairing this meeting, I'm serving as vice chair, that I think it's really important for us all to respect [SPEAKER_07]: each other's roles, including when someone's a dissenting opinion.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if they're stating what matters to them, I think they're speaking to some people. [SPEAKER_07]: So just to be clear, again, I don't want us to veer too far into telling any other member how they should or shouldn't serve in this capacity. [SPEAKER_07]: Everyone's welcome to speak their mind. [SPEAKER_07]: But again, I think everyone here is serving the way that they believe [SPEAKER_07]: they should for the people that elected them and we are all elected. [SPEAKER_07]: So, Dan.
[SPEAKER_31]: Yeah, thanks.
[SPEAKER_31]: My questions for Dr. Botehlo are if those elementary teacher cuts that we all understand are [SPEAKER_31]: possibility if the priorities number holds.
[SPEAKER_31]: And we all hope that there will be more funding available and many of these cuts will not be necessary. [SPEAKER_31]: But if that number holds, are those elementary position cuts foregone conclusion to be at East?
[SPEAKER_31]: Is that the idea? [SPEAKER_31]: And could you talk about [SPEAKER_31]: what that would do in regard to class sizes as they compare to each other between the elementary schools.
[SPEAKER_31]: Would that final outcome make East comparable to Cottage and Heights in terms of where class sizes are projected to be there, or would it make East an anomaly in having much larger class sizes?
[SPEAKER_31]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dr. Botella, you're muted.
[SPEAKER_27]: The potential cuts would be a grade one either at Heights or East, a grade two at East, and then the next level, which I think, you know, again, get into higher numbers would be a grade, potentially a grade five at Cottage or a grade three at East.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, with those, um, if those cuts were to occur, um, the kind of the grade one at Easter Heights, whichever cut, whichever one, you know, once we get harder numbers, grade one number, kindergarten numbers. [SPEAKER_27]: we don't get until kids register.
[SPEAKER_27]: Grade one is also a place where we often see a bump up during the year.
[SPEAKER_27]: It can be any place from like seven kids to 20 kids.
[SPEAKER_27]: um given on the year if actually our numbers if if we were to use the numbers that are coming up from kindergarten going into grade one along with um some of our students from the shelter that we know will be leaving we're actually we'd actually be right around 22 across the board [SPEAKER_27]: And we could make those cuts and still have relatively acceptable class sizes.
[SPEAKER_27]: We're just projecting that we're, you know, that we potentially could have up to 15 kids.
[SPEAKER_27]: And that's why having, you know, a cut at both east and heights, you know, would not be something that I would suggest we could do. [SPEAKER_27]: we could, um, accomplish and still have relatively class, good class sizes.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, so again, those grade ones are hard to predict. [SPEAKER_27]: And so what I'm saying right now is, you know, worst, worst game scenario, we considering one of them, um, [SPEAKER_27]: And which still could again, keep us around 22 as long as those that enrollment over the summer, because we have kind of a buffer right now of about 2020 kids and still maintaining like 22 class size.
[SPEAKER_27]: The grade 2.
[SPEAKER_27]: Cut if that happened at East, that would put. [SPEAKER_27]: East at around 22, 23, that would put Heights at around 22, 23, and it put cottage initially at around 20, uh, 21.
[SPEAKER_27]: So that's again, a place where if we had initial additional move-ins coming into cottage, I mean, coming into the district, we wouldn't be looking to bust them to cottage.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, this is again, based upon numbers we have, you know, kids coming up from grade one to grade two.
[SPEAKER_27]: Um, the, um, [SPEAKER_27]: Then when we get into grade three or five, which five at Cottage or three at East, if the five at Cottage right now would put us quite high, that would put us around 26, 27, which would be higher than the 22, 23 at East and at Heights. [SPEAKER_27]: The grade 3 at East, if that cut was need to be made, that would put us up around 25.
[SPEAKER_27]: At East, which is higher than the 23 at heights and the 21 at cottage.
[SPEAKER_27]: And again, we would be looking to have kids go to cottage if they moved in.
[SPEAKER_27]: So those are the impacts of of if we needed to make those cuts and what. [SPEAKER_27]: Again, the initial, as far as grade one at either heights or east, and grade two at east, again, would keep class sizes pretty even among east and heights, but then would have to put any additional kids at cottage.
[SPEAKER_27]: If we had to do make multiple cuts, that's where it gets even trickier.
[SPEAKER_08]: Brett KenCairn, Thank you, Jeremy I just like to reply to the comments of my fellow school committee members, not the only one who gave this feedback.
[SPEAKER_08]: Brett KenCairn, The fine the income get very similar feedback on the quality of the presentation budget, please go look at other districts and how their process works.
[SPEAKER_08]: There are tens of pages, like 60, 70 pages explaining what, why, the rationale, what was prioritized.
[SPEAKER_08]: What we've been doing here is not normal and it is a disservice to the people of this district.
[SPEAKER_08]: We only received a line item budget in PDF form earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's where we would have had to go to see what was being prioritized.
[SPEAKER_08]: And anyone can look on the website.
[SPEAKER_08]: Our budget website hasn't been updated.
[SPEAKER_08]: Unlike other towns, there's no materials for 2025.
[SPEAKER_08]: But if you look in packets for posting, you can see the line by line.
[SPEAKER_08]: As we learned in the Massachusetts Association School Committee training, a budget is more than just line items. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the story. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the priorities. [SPEAKER_08]: It's what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Also, the line by line document doesn't match the presentation that Dr.
Botello shared.
[SPEAKER_08]: To Julie's point, I think that these discussions should be public and not private behind closed doors so the community can understand what we are and what we are prioritizing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now, I mean, we can discuss this later, but I don't want to eat up the evening because I know other people have questions, but that's my view.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Julie. [SPEAKER_07]: Julie.
[SPEAKER_16]: Um, hi, thanks.
[SPEAKER_16]: Um, so just, just Jeremy, I don't, I don't want to like get in a match with you, but I will say that, um, the 60 page document that you're looking for is the end product. [SPEAKER_16]: That's not the beginning product. [SPEAKER_16]: The beginning product is this iterative process.
[SPEAKER_16]: Then when we present in March, there's going to be like a whole budget book with all of that information.
[SPEAKER_16]: So we've all been getting like little pieces of it along the way as we're discussing different parts in the process. [SPEAKER_16]: And then at the end, we're going to get a budget book. [SPEAKER_16]: And I've already actually had an opportunity to discuss that.
[SPEAKER_16]: Now, I would like to know what things that we've discussed offline need to be discussed now.
[SPEAKER_16]: And we can discuss them now. [SPEAKER_16]: What are those things?
[SPEAKER_08]: I do think that we need to evaluate whether [SPEAKER_08]: It makes sense to have, if I'm looking at the line-by-line budget correctly, two elementary school teachers or a DEI director, for example.
[SPEAKER_08]: But it's hard to know purely from the line-by-line budget because lines are not labeled as mandatory or non-mandatory.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's something that other towns rely on the admin to say, these are the things that we can move around. [SPEAKER_08]: We've never been presented that.
[SPEAKER_07]: So guys, I'm going to just step in again here and say, because Jeremy, I think what you just had to say right there, and in particular, the tone in which you just said that, I think that's where we want to go.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think if we, as a group here, if we put this aside, guys, like any disagreement we have on the process, I think that [SPEAKER_07]: You know, at the end of the day, I tend to believe in the people of Sharon. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll go back to the fact all seven of us are elected. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe they have the right people sitting at this table.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy, I think that the question you just raised, those are the kinds of questions that we do need to get to.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think, look, I was going to speak [SPEAKER_07]: last and express that my biggest stress, to be honest with you, and I don't share your view necessarily.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'll be clear. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't share your view in how we've gotten to this moment, but I do agree with you that [SPEAKER_07]: The process itself, and some of it is just in the timing of how priorities happens and whatnot, because when the governor's budget comes out and when this town passes our budget, the timing makes it so that there's going to be this very short period of time where those conversations need to happen.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I do share with you that I wish those conversations could happen over two months.
[SPEAKER_07]: What I also understand is that the budget process becomes very political in the sense that [SPEAKER_07]: I've seen Dr. Botehlo put a budget out that he truly believes in and be criticized for having that be way out of whack financially with the priority number that was showing at the time in some years.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then I've seen, in this case, him present a budget that's to the current priorities number just as we've asked.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then that has folks in the community believing that I hear people say the superintendent's proposal cuts to teachers at East. [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't believe that the superintendent thinks we should cut those two teachers. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe that he's trying to get to a number that, quite frankly, I would bet you just about anything won't be the number we end up at.
[SPEAKER_07]: The process is very frustrating. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't disagree actually with, aside from the criticism of our superintendent, I don't disagree with any of your frustrations with the process.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think if we, as a group, put aside our differences of opinion in how we got here, I think that those conversations are gonna be substantive. [SPEAKER_07]: They're gonna be productive. [SPEAKER_07]: And I think you're right that we need to get to a place where we're talking about, hey, is it DEI director or is it this teacher?
[SPEAKER_07]: What are the things of this committee?
[SPEAKER_07]: I did appreciate having the line item budget. [SPEAKER_07]: I also, like you, noticed that there were a few things that were not in line with some of the presentations.
[SPEAKER_07]: To me, I don't envy the superintendent in having to show real-life people who are working hard for this district and working really hard for all of our children having their jobs on the chopping block, when in reality, their jobs are hopefully never threatened.
[SPEAKER_07]: I hope that we end up in a position where we're talking very little cuts and talking very many add-backs.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know where we're going to get to. [SPEAKER_07]: Adam, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, Javi. [SPEAKER_03]: And apologies, I'm off camera, I'm on a train.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think your point now was the prudent one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think maybe something from a process standpoint that we can do better with and look to improve on next year is having conversations, like I think kind of Jeremy is pointing out, we haven't had from a values perspective, [SPEAKER_03]: earlier in this process without necessarily associating direct budget cuts to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think we've taken or adopted an approach where we've tried to look at, here's a number that we want to hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here are now numbers that we can try to move around. [SPEAKER_03]: When potentially what we can say is instead, look, let's just understand which of the things cost what.
[SPEAKER_03]: and talk about what we value, and then that can get translated into a budget later, and hopefully those kind of prioritized values can be maintained even as that number shifts.
[SPEAKER_03]: So try to take us away from or I think we've tried to really protect kind of the district and employees and administration from having to be overly specific, as you noted. [SPEAKER_03]: And these are people's jobs and lives.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe we can try to have this discussion to a certain extent without trying to make it about a specific number or staff member.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fair.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: I was planning to speak last just real quick.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dr. Mattel, thank you for your presentation.
[SPEAKER_07]: My biggest concern is probably the timeline, which I understand isn't a function of decisions really getting made by our administration. [SPEAKER_07]: It's just sort of how the schedule lines up. [SPEAKER_07]: But I do, when I look at the turnaround from priorities to [SPEAKER_07]: When I look at the turnaround from priorities to the presentation from you to the vote from the school committee to the presentation to FinCom, it feels like the really important conversations, the one Jeremy is really alluding to, are going to be very rushed and or we're going to end up in a place where the committee has to either cave on certain things perhaps that matter to its members vis-a-vis the community or admin is, and I feel like we saw last year that that, [SPEAKER_07]: that rush created a lot of possible problems.
[SPEAKER_07]: So to me, I would just ask that the budget subcommittee, perhaps just Adam in his role as budget subcommittee chair and Dr. Botello have some conversation around how possibly maybe do we need to add a meeting? [SPEAKER_07]: Do we need to have a subcommittee meeting?
[SPEAKER_07]: What is the way in which we can have some of this work [SPEAKER_07]: be done.
[SPEAKER_07]: And again, to Jeremy's point in full view of the public, I trust the integrity of people, but I do also believe that the public deserves to understand the thinking and deserves to see the work done.
[SPEAKER_07]: One thought that I had while Jeremy was talking and pointing some stuff out is one thing that might [SPEAKER_07]: I use the word satisfy, but in the truest form, not in any, I'm not just appease, but actually satisfy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy, it feels like perhaps like one thing you're pointing out that could be solved by having our line item budget always, just as a point of the process, list under every single line, is this mandated?
[SPEAKER_07]: Is this, because I do believe that if we could maintain at all times an understanding of [SPEAKER_07]: Well, what could we cut? [SPEAKER_07]: Because we should recognize that everything is a choice. [SPEAKER_07]: And then I think the conversations should be had with a tone of understanding that Dr. Botehlo knows a lot more about this stuff than we do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there are times, Dr. Botehlo, I feel like it's appropriate for you to tell us, the committee, and certainly the public that, yes, that thing is not mandated.
[SPEAKER_07]: You said this last year with an item. [SPEAKER_07]: I do not believe in a budget that doesn't have that in it. [SPEAKER_07]: and you know sometimes the things that i've heard you say to me uh in private that had the most impact on my view of your your running this district but also of this budget process is when you said to me look i took this job because i believed in sharon and i don't want to be the superintendent of a district that doesn't have [SPEAKER_07]: X item.
[SPEAKER_07]: And to me, that's impactful for our educational leader to say, but I think it should still be understood that if a bad school committee wanted to gut its school system, [SPEAKER_07]: From a budget perspective, the superintendent really has no mechanism to stop them. [SPEAKER_07]: So it is important for us to see the difference between mandated versus not mandated because some people, like myself, believe in foreign language in elementary schools.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some people don't.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is a decision. [SPEAKER_07]: Even if it's net neutral, it is a decision.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I think if we could get there, that might perhaps satisfy some of this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy?
[SPEAKER_08]: I think, you know, a line by line of what is mandated and not mandated is not practical, right? [SPEAKER_08]: When you think about financial planning, you say, here's a module, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: This is the, or a discussion around what type of class sizes are we targeting? [SPEAKER_08]: Like, how should we think about the trade-offs between breadth of offering in high school and elementary instruction? [SPEAKER_08]: How should we think about here?
[SPEAKER_08]: Here's what, [SPEAKER_08]: elementary school foreign language root costs. [SPEAKER_08]: Like here's what we, how much of that cost we can strip out. [SPEAKER_08]: Should we replace it with something else through the optimization that Dr. Batilla referenced?
[SPEAKER_08]: And just having that list of, you know, some of them are going to be a little bit more, they're not going to be blanking on the right word, but some are going to be gradients. [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be, how should we think about targeting class size? [SPEAKER_08]: Like here are the list of [SPEAKER_08]: But it's that meta layer where each of those is composed of a few variables and a discussion just around those priorities and matching to that.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I thought that we were clear around elementary class size being a top priority. [SPEAKER_08]: So I think we did try to attempt this, but then I don't think we had the conversations of what does that mean? [SPEAKER_08]: Well, we're keeping some of these other non-mandatory elements.
[SPEAKER_08]: um so why are we keeping those and not keeping elementary class size small when that was kind of number one on the list in the budget subcommittee dan yeah i [SPEAKER_31]: I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having more information or potentially some sort of a coding perhaps in the budget later this year or next year about where different [SPEAKER_31]: items of the budget lie in terms of the superintendent's priorities or our priorities.
[SPEAKER_31]: If something is required by law, perhaps that would be good to know.
[SPEAKER_31]: That's all useful information.
[SPEAKER_31]: I do struggle to understand just personally how we would categorize things as, for example, mandatory or non-mandatory.
[SPEAKER_31]: Like, for example, a science teacher position.
[SPEAKER_31]: Is that mandatory or not mandatory? [SPEAKER_31]: I don't even know how to evaluate that.
[SPEAKER_31]: Athletics, like are athletics mandatory or not mandatory?
[SPEAKER_31]: So I don't know if people have ideas about that or if or I'm not trying to be funny. [SPEAKER_31]: I just I just, you know, if we do that, that's fine. [SPEAKER_31]: I just people make comments to the effect that something is.
[SPEAKER_31]: Mandatory or not mandatory or, for example, nice to have versus must have like I don't that's a useful lens sometimes I use it myself, but it's not the only lens I use and sometimes.
[SPEAKER_31]: It does feel like.
[SPEAKER_31]: it's purporting to be an objective way of looking at things when it's actually just laundering our own personal values through that lens.
[SPEAKER_31]: I could call something a must have, someone else might call it nice to have. [SPEAKER_31]: I don't think that's actually an objective way of looking at budgets, but it might be a helpful one if we understand what it means. [SPEAKER_31]: Like if the superintendent says, I consider this a must have.
[SPEAKER_31]: Okay, I understand what that means. [SPEAKER_31]: So not opposed to it. [SPEAKER_31]: I just, I'd want to maybe have more conversations about, excuse me, what exactly we mean by the terms and what nomenclature we're going to be using in budget.
[SPEAKER_31]: Thank you. Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks, Dan.
[SPEAKER_07]: Guys, just a reminder, we do still have the public hearing to get to, and I imagine that might be lengthy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adam?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you just made a really good point earlier about the timeline.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I wanted to kind of put on record publicly, and we can work offline to find the right time.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will need a meeting in between or an additional meeting in between the 26th and the 5th.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's viable to come back after priorities, present kind of an updated budget, present the trade-offs, entertain discussion, and then come back on March 5th and vote.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think...
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Dr. Patel will need to hear feedback.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll likely need an additional presentation of the budget with then a vote on March 5th.
[SPEAKER_03]: So just to let people know, we'll work out calendar, but for all involved, all school committee and administration, just please count on that time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, Alan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Alan.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of things I want to talk about. [SPEAKER_05]: And I think this is a worthwhile discussion for us as a board to have. [SPEAKER_05]: But I wanted to say, I mean, what I think you just said, which is that tonight is really designed to be a public hearing for us to hear from the residents.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 857.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'd like us if everyone's amenable, I would like to suggest that we kind of let people who might need to get to bed or want to get to get the comments in a reasonable hour to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: And if we want to return to this discussion after that, I'll stay here as long as we want to.
[SPEAKER_07]: Imagine if we had those 40 seconds back.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Touche.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Julie?
[SPEAKER_07]: You know I'm joking with you, by the way. [SPEAKER_07]: Julie, you're good?
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_16]: I'm fine. [SPEAKER_16]: I just think that, unfortunately, this [SPEAKER_16]: conversation got off the rails and to the extent I contributed it, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_16]: I do think that one of the other things that makes it difficult to say what is mandatory is not simply just saying a state requirement, but also we have contract considerations and a lot of other things that go into this.
[SPEAKER_16]: And so it's not like a Jenga and you can just keep pulling things out and putting them somewhere else. [SPEAKER_16]: Like it's, it's, it's, [SPEAKER_16]: It's just not like that. [SPEAKER_16]: And I guess my problem is I just don't visualize what some people on the committee have sort of tried to visualize. [SPEAKER_16]: So I'm hoping to hear from our constituents what they think.
[SPEAKER_16]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, we'll move to the public hearing. [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: In accordance with mgl chapter 71 section 38 and a public hearing for the proposed 2025 2026 school budget will be held on Wednesday February 12 2025 during the regularly scheduled school committee meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, I will entertain. [SPEAKER_07]: folks.
[SPEAKER_18]: Thanks, Avi.
[SPEAKER_18]: So I have a bunch of thoughts.
[SPEAKER_18]: First off, Dr. Botello, I tried really hard on the fly after your presentation tonight to match up the numbers in your presentation with the line item budget published on the website. [SPEAKER_18]: They don't match at all.
[SPEAKER_18]: So you have cutting a Spanish teacher at the high school, saving 80K in your presentation in the line item budget, [SPEAKER_18]: it saves somewhere in the order of 36K.
[SPEAKER_18]: You have an art teacher saving 105K in your presentation.
[SPEAKER_18]: In the line item budget, it's saving about 85K. [SPEAKER_18]: I can go through and do this on every single one of your cuts, but my point is your work doesn't match, which makes it virtually impossible for anyone to understand what's going on here.
[SPEAKER_18]: I have a bunch of other questions. [SPEAKER_18]: Contract transportation for out of district mileage reimbursement.
[SPEAKER_18]: You've budgeted 500K for next year. [SPEAKER_18]: Last year, you spent 800K.
[SPEAKER_18]: The year before, you spent 700K.
[SPEAKER_18]: Currently this year, it's sitting, I think, around 270 after you budgeted originally way less than that and then transferred a bunch.
[SPEAKER_18]: During fiscal year 2021, [SPEAKER_18]: when it was 700 K you came before Fincom and had a whole discussion with them. [SPEAKER_18]: And they asked you and Ellen, what was going on?
[SPEAKER_18]: Why it went so high. [SPEAKER_18]: And I have this clear recollection of Ellen saying, this is a one-time anomaly, never going to happen again. [SPEAKER_18]: We were able to get more vans.
[SPEAKER_18]: We're all set. [SPEAKER_18]: And then in FY 24, it was 800 K.
[SPEAKER_18]: And you haven't shown us an update as to where it is yet this year, but I really worry it's gonna be meaningfully more than the 270 you got. [SPEAKER_18]: And I don't know that 500K for fiscal year 26 is sufficient.
[SPEAKER_18]: You increased your short-term substitute pay from $100 to $110.
[SPEAKER_18]: That's a 10% increase per day.
[SPEAKER_18]: You're budgeting the exact same amount [SPEAKER_18]: for short-term substitutes at the high school and the middle school as you did for fiscal year 25.
[SPEAKER_18]: You already have students spending part of their day in the auditorium because you have no short-term substitutes.
[SPEAKER_18]: or you can't hire enough, or they don't want to work because you're not paying them enough, or whatever.
[SPEAKER_18]: I feel like you're somehow budgeting to have even fewer.
[SPEAKER_18]: And I don't understand it. [SPEAKER_18]: And it's not fair to our high school students.
[SPEAKER_18]: I understand you don't like what some people, I'll say one member of the school committee said to you, [SPEAKER_18]: during your discussion just now, but as a member of the public, I can tell you, you get enough.
[SPEAKER_18]: You also have never presented what the current enrollment is by class and grade at each school.
[SPEAKER_18]: So the conversation you were having about what happens when you cut a first grade teacher at East [SPEAKER_18]: and a second grade teacher at Eastern, you were trying to like give everyone these numbers. [SPEAKER_18]: Nobody had anything to look at.
[SPEAKER_18]: That's never been presented.
[SPEAKER_18]: I can tell you with every superintendent going back to Dr. Claire Jackson, which is a long way, that information was at the beginning of the budget process.
[SPEAKER_18]: You have not given us what we need.
[SPEAKER_18]: That makes this hearing effectively a fallacy.
[SPEAKER_18]: because we don't actually have anything real to comment on.
[SPEAKER_18]: To Avi's point that priorities always comes back higher, usually comes back like 0.2% higher.
[SPEAKER_18]: This idea that a million and a half dollars is gonna fall out of the sky and save you all is not a thing.
[SPEAKER_18]: If you got an extra couple hundred thousand, that would be pretty miraculous.
[SPEAKER_18]: So I would really like you all to gather together and stop with the bitching and just ask for what is actually needed.
[SPEAKER_18]: Ensure there's a proper line item budget that lines up with a 20 minute presentation we received because those two things do not line up.
[SPEAKER_18]: And then go forward.
[SPEAKER_18]: Oh, and also, Dan, athletics, technically not a necessity. [SPEAKER_18]: That doesn't mean I agree with that, but I'm telling you under law, not a necessity.
[SPEAKER_18]: You're also, your athletic costs next year are going up by like, [SPEAKER_18]: a giant amount of money from the budget. [SPEAKER_18]: They're going to be way over 800K. [SPEAKER_18]: I see people like squinting at me from school committee and it makes me wonder, have any of you looked at every line item in the line item budget? [SPEAKER_18]: Because I did.
[SPEAKER_18]: And your salaries for coaches are going up by almost 11%.
[SPEAKER_18]: You know, what on earth are you doing?
[SPEAKER_18]: Oh, and Ellen, I assume you're not taking any pay raise because you're showing yourself getting paid the exact same amount [SPEAKER_18]: in fiscal year 26 as fiscal year 25.
[SPEAKER_18]: So even though you got over an $8,000 pay raise from fiscal year 24 to fiscal year 25, I think if the community has shown a budget that shows you getting no raise, we should be able to count on that.
[SPEAKER_18]: One last thing, Dr. Botehlo, I can save you a chunk of money right off the bat.
[SPEAKER_18]: You're scheduled to get $225,000 next year as a superintendent.
[SPEAKER_18]: The median pay for a superintendent in the state of Massachusetts is $197,000 and change.
[SPEAKER_18]: How about you give us back $28,000 and put it towards the IA raises?
[SPEAKER_18]: Lastly, capital outlay requests have not been voted by FinCom.
[SPEAKER_18]: Your superintendent appears to be confused.
[SPEAKER_18]: They were presented to FinCom, but no vote has been taken.
[SPEAKER_18]: They will be taken at a subsequent meeting.
[SPEAKER_18]: This has been embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_18]: Do better.
[SPEAKER_18]: I hate saying it over and over.
[SPEAKER_18]: Do better.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've just asked the members of the public not curse, please, during this meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Rachel Diamond.
[SPEAKER_24]: Hi, can you hear me?
[SPEAKER_07]: We can. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep, absolutely. [SPEAKER_24]: Okay, great. [SPEAKER_24]: I tried to turn my video too.
[SPEAKER_24]: I appreciate seeing the line item budget. [SPEAKER_24]: I'm not sure I've ever seen a budget this detailed in my time here.
[SPEAKER_24]: I'm wondering if there's a key that explains the codes of the third column where items are coded S26, L26, CTSM, things like that to help us better understand how things changed from fiscal year to fiscal year.
[SPEAKER_24]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Matt Desmarais.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hi there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks again for the opportunity to speak.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just wanted to speak to express my support for the teachers and the instructional assistants in our schools and the need to compensate them for not just a livable wage, but wages that attract and retain the most talented teachers and staff.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the children of Sharon can continue to receive some of the best public education in the state.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was encouraged by the superintendent's priority to increasing the special education budget.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's obviously something that I'm concerned with and with a student who is affected by that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I just wanted to express that to the committee.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Philip King.
[SPEAKER_07]: Philip?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Philip, you're muted.
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought I had asked to unmute here.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, now you're unmuted now.
[SPEAKER_26]: Sorry about that. [SPEAKER_26]: Philip King, I am a member of the Finance Committee, but speaking on behalf of myself, [SPEAKER_26]: I am very troubled by this budget really bare bones, the increases are all in salary, there are other costs going up posted just gone up supplies are going up there's no increases in those budgets.
[SPEAKER_26]: there's no long term looking in these budgets looking year over year as miss crosby pointed out that.
[SPEAKER_26]: There are years things are $700,000, $800,000, and then we budget $200,000.
[SPEAKER_26]: It's not right, and it's wrong. [SPEAKER_26]: And you're going to end up in the same place.
[SPEAKER_26]: You have a contract with your teachers that gives them 5%-ish raises.
[SPEAKER_26]: You know you're not getting 5% from the community.
[SPEAKER_26]: So every year we make cuts. [SPEAKER_26]: And we have to remember, these are not temporary cuts. [SPEAKER_26]: We're going to be in the same position a year from now with the same budget problems.
[SPEAKER_26]: We have no contract with the IAs. [SPEAKER_26]: We have no money to pay them. [SPEAKER_26]: It's very unfortunate. [SPEAKER_26]: I'm very concerned about elementary school. [SPEAKER_26]: Your superintendent came and made a presentation about elementary school showing that he needs 600,000 for 212 seats.
[SPEAKER_26]: That comes out to $3,000 a seat.
[SPEAKER_26]: But you charge $3,600. [SPEAKER_26]: And the reason why you do that is there are 50 seats that are either IEPs subsidized [SPEAKER_26]: migrant, homeless, not sure exactly what there are.
[SPEAKER_26]: There are other funds for those, but those aren't getting contributed towards the $600,000.
[SPEAKER_26]: Instead, you make those 160 parents pay an extra $600 to cover those costs that should be coming out of the town budget and not out of the school budget.
[SPEAKER_26]: This budget is disgusting and needs to be fixed. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks, Philip.
[SPEAKER_07]: Leosh Markse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, can you hear me?
[SPEAKER_01]: We sure can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, my name is Lajos Kamoche and I'm a visual arts teacher at the Shen High School.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here tonight to urge you to reconsider the proposed reduction of a teaching position in the high school's art department.
[SPEAKER_01]: This reduction decreases our staff from four to three teachers and it will have significant negative consequences for our students.
[SPEAKER_01]: It will lead to larger class sizes and it will result in the elimination of course offerings, removing choices for our students.
[SPEAKER_01]: The research program cuts are shared in high schools concerning the elimination of theater arts classes about five years ago serves as a stark reminder that once teaching positions or programs are cut, they rarely return.
[SPEAKER_01]: We cannot afford to repeat this pattern with visual arts.
[SPEAKER_01]: While I strongly support AP math and science courses, my own daughter benefited greatly from the robust programs at the Shen High School.
[SPEAKER_01]: You must also recognize the importance of a very rounded education. [SPEAKER_01]: Shen High School is a vibrant arts community with many talented students who go on to pursue their passions at prestigious institutions like RISD, MassArt, and Lesley University, to name a few.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in general, all students benefit from the creative outlet and cognitive development offered by arts education.
[SPEAKER_01]: Art provides a crucial balance to the demands of rigorous academic coursework.
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the difficult budget decision that the committee faces, however, [SPEAKER_01]: I implore you to prioritize the arts and find a solution that there's a quality of arts education at Sharon High School.
[SPEAKER_01]: A complete education includes the arts, and our students deserve the opportunity to explore and develop their creative potentials.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, the fee discussion is being tabled until we meet after priorities.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so instead, we will move to the decision items, I would entertain a motion to vote to approve us. [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: I will entertain a motion to vote to approve the minutes of January 8 2025. [SPEAKER_14]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_07]: Second, Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Julie?
[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adam?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Allen?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Motion carries 7-0.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'd entertain a motion to approve the minutes of January 22nd, 2025. [SPEAKER_07]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do I have a second?
[SPEAKER_14]: Second.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yes, motion carries 7-0.
[SPEAKER_07]: The minutes for February 5th, they're not available yet, so we will table that vote.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I would entertain a motion to approve the field trip request sharing high school Spanish department trip to Spain, February 2026.
[SPEAKER_07]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_16]: Second.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Donna?
[SPEAKER_14]: Only if I could go with them. [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Julie?
[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adam?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Dan? [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Alan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Correctfully, they're not taking community volunteers. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, motion carries seven zero. [SPEAKER_07]: Are there any announcements or updates?
[SPEAKER_07]: John, I think you had an announcement.
[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, I'm just pulling it up. [SPEAKER_14]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_14]: Sorry, one second.
[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_14]: Sorry, there is an upcoming meeting hosted by the Sharon CPAC entitled Basic Rights Evaluation and Eligibility.
[SPEAKER_14]: It will be a free virtual workshop for parents and professionals sponsored by the Federation for Children with Special Needs.
[SPEAKER_14]: It is listed for February 24th from 6.30
to 8.30
and I believe the link will be sent out [SPEAKER_15]: And I'll make sure that I put that flyer in the community corners section of the district website.
[SPEAKER_15]: That'd be great. [SPEAKER_15]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: To all the members of the community who spoke tonight, I think I speak for the committee when I say we appreciate you.
[SPEAKER_07]: We appreciate your engagement and your honest feedback.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not an easy process, the budget, but thank you for being here and being part of this.
[SPEAKER_07]: To the members of the committee, speaking for myself, I appreciate you all.
[SPEAKER_07]: I appreciate you sharing your honest feelings and representing the people who elected you.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're not going to all agree throughout this process, and I think if we did, [SPEAKER_07]: there'd be something wrong with the process.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I know it's not pretty, and I know it can be tough, but I appreciate the professionalism and the willingness to engage with each other also.
[SPEAKER_07]: With that said, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
[SPEAKER_07]: So moved.
[SPEAKER_07]: Second.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeremy?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sana?
[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Louis?
[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adam?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Dan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Alan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm a yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Motion carries 7-0.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have a good night, everybody.
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